Pandora Acquires TicketFly for $450M(start.ticketfly.com) |
Pandora Acquires TicketFly for $450M(start.ticketfly.com) |
Can this possibly be true? More used than Apple/Google/Spotify music apps maybe, but Facebook? Google search seems hard to believe too?
I mean 80m users, "many on their phone" when Facebook have put up 1b users in the same day and I'm pretty sure surpassed 50%+ mobile usage?
Even Pandora's claims against Spotify seem pretty suspect. While Spotify presumably has less active users (75 MM, assuming monthly), I'd bet their users spend more time using the service (given that roughly 1/3 of Spotify's actives have subscriptions to the service).
It seems reasonable that users would spend 1b/80m = 13 times the amount of time listening to music than they do interacting with Facebook.
1.25B/80m = ~16 times. The average Facebook user in the US spends about 40 minutes on FB per day (not sure of mobile vs desktop breakdown):
16*40minutes = 10 hours per day on Pandora on average. Absolutely no way.
That's a pretty shady thing to do.
People listen to music for hours each day, even while working. They aren't using Facebook like that.
http://qz.com/481245/these-are-the-25-most-popular-2015-mobi...
Locally, I can choose from three (3) rather prominent avenues to buy from, but there's no overlap that I can tell between venues. As in, you can't get tickets to a LiveNation exclusive venue (large scale) and some smaller ones might have arrangements with other entities. I guess what I'm saying is I think you're right, but there are probably minefields of contracts in place.
I stopped using Pandora years ago when I interviewed with them and they ranted at me about how much they hate paying customers because they make more on advertising, which is when I started paying twice as much for Spotify.
Also, the people I know that use Pandora, and my experience of using Pandora literally since they were announced on Slashdot and were one of the first Flash apps, is that they do better 'radio' than other folks, but if you stick with a channel, it don't change much over years.
Pandora can significantly increase the attendance at these shows. That's much more important economically to most bands than the tiny royalty checks. It can be a real benefit to the music business.
Edit: And StubHub for that matter.
So it's not amazing at all. And then it's perfect for many entertainers because they can use Ticketmaster as a scapegoat for such high ticket prices and exclusivity.
They merged with a large owner of venues (LiveNation), so they own the venues as well
The photo: http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Guitar...
<<Ticketfly has an interesting origin story, the company’s co-founders sold their first startup, TicketWeb to industry leader Ticketmaster for $35 million in 2000 and then left that company in 2008 to form Ticketfly.>>
* Form a partnership with Uber -- allow me to see venues with events happening on my uber map and allow me to click one button to buy a ride to the venue and a ticket at the same time!
* For the love of god -- please update the Pandora Home Screen on the website app when listening to music so that the album art and the artist title are BIG and viewable from across the room! Look at how lame this layout is: http://i.imgur.com/QEciRIj.jpg
Look at how small the album art/artist is and ALL that wasted screen real estate.... I mean the album art is the smallest visual element in that entire UI!!!
If the album that Pandora has tagged a song as belonging to isn't available digitally on Amazon, but the same song is digitally available on another album, link to that. Don't imply that itunes is the only way to get it without ordering a CD.
edit: the truth hurts. I used and paid for pandora one for many years but the fact is they play the same songs over and over regardless of what station I'm on. switched to slacker radio, then rdio more recently and found it to be much better. best of luck to pandora though.
javascript:setInterval(function (){document.title = $('.songTitle').text() + ' -- ' + $('.artistSummary').first().text();if($('#still_listening_ignore').length == 1){var t = 1000 + (Math.random()*500); setTimeout(function(){if($('#still_listening_ignore').length == 1)$('#still_listening_ignore').click();},t)}},1000);
Can't sign with another vendor per the contract they just broke?
Pandora isn't claiming to be the most used app in the world, they're claiming to be the most used mobile app in the world. People take their phones with them and for battery life alone are not likely to leave them playing music while they aren't listening to it.
I'm not sure why GP is getting downvoted for pointing this out.
This is needed for music playing in the background at restaurants for example.
I'm pretty sure Spotify/Pandora's terms & conditions don't allow that:
https://help.pandora.com/customer/portal/articles/215200-pla...
The terms may prohibit, but in my observations, I know of many restaurants and small businesses that do it anyway. I'm sure most ignorant of the policy, but how many would stop anyway if still known of it.
