I suspect that the time is a function of surface area. If instead of wood chips they used shavings, I'd bet that they could take the time down even further.
I use small spice jars for making my batches, and woody things last longer than squishy ones. i.e. orange rind dried is lasts longer than orange rind fresh. However, fresh orange rind gives a different taste and is cool if you're doing a cocktail night, or something. You can do things that you can't do any other way like this.
Cloves, Sassafras root, ginger, juniper berries, rosemary, lavender, sage. All have great effect.
Also, Ultrasonic makes EXCELLENT sangria. This is the only way to do sangria, IMO.
You can either use bitters to add to sangria, or just put wine and other things directly into the ultrasonic and infuse that way. It works great with herbs. For fruits, you should really just use the juice or crush them with a mortar and pestle. Any fruit soaking in the sangria is purely for show. IMO, all sangria should have sage in it. Sassafras in small quantities makes cheap red wine taste about 2 shelves better. YMMV.
Ultrasonic boths -- as the OP mentioned -- is also another way of extracting more flavour from liquids. Both concepts are talked about in "Modernist Cuisine" by Myhrvold & co.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/05/technology/05tonerite.html https://www.tonerite.com
I've heard from several musicians that say that it genuinely works. I've also witnessed first hand the "breaking in" process with an instrument that results in a better sound after being played a lot. Note that an old instrument doesn't break in - it is the playing.
I've also heard, from Ed Maday - http://www.edmaday.com - that the vibrations are why he says away from power machinery in his craft - he believes that the use of that machinery might damage the potential tone of the wood. I am skeptical, but if there is a mechanical process involved, then maybe he's not wrong.
By comparison, I had a guitar teacher who would play his G&L Strat 5 days a week for lessons, and you could just see how he was working the fretboard and neck into the sweetest playing, conditioned piece of gear. He always had a line of people waiting to buy his guitar whenever he felt like he wanted a change. I can understand wanting a guitar that "broken in" but by comparison getting something artificially relic'd or aged doesn't seem appealing.
What is the nature of this "aged" quality that is desirable?
With a wooden beer cask I had (4.5gal) you could taste the vanilla from the wood, which I believe was so prominent because of the small cask size, because of more wood touching the beer.
I'm wondering if the cask size also effects the amount of angels share too.
So what? He was talking about guitars made of wood, not speaker cables.
I would link to a source, but they are all pretty much just advertisements. Your favorite search engine could find them.
Disclaimer: I've purchased some of their Navy Strength rum, and it was incredible. Aging liquor may become a thing of the past.
Edit: It does mention about acetic acid increasing though interestingly.
According to wikipedia "Ethanol can be oxidized to acetaldehyde and further oxidized to acetic acid", so I'd be interested to know more about how it is formed in this case.
It does seem like there are lots of other by-products of oxidation though:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/23143031_Isolation_...
[0] http://money.cnn.com/2016/06/21/technology/ultrasonic-dryer/
Regular "food" and "drinks" tend to be pretty complex chemical cocktails, so no wonder they have strange reactions with anything even remotely inclined to react chemically.
Now I wonder if the taste of the original Turkish coffee is related in small part to the usage of tiny copper pots for making it.
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/why-the-tomato-wa...
http://io9.gizmodo.com/5877587/the-first-artificial-sweetene...
The technique reported in the NPR article uses ultrasound, apparently at ordinary pressure. The original journal article (pdf) is open sourced at [2].
[1] https://www.thrillist.com/drink/nation/the-pressure-aged-cle...
[2] http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1350417716...
I've had it, and it's very convincing. I'm not an expert by any means, but I doubt I would be able to tell it apart from truly aged whiskey.
At least according to the show, the two "inventors" had a patent on their method. They were allegedly getting two years of aging in two days.
http://www.wineandcheesemap.com/
News articles about it:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/wine-cheese-pairing-ap...
Oh, wait. This is just based on subjective taste? Well, everyone knows that people, in general, don't have any...
Diamonds are higher rated the clearer they are, except for when they are man-made, too.
Ironically, we could say the same about your post ;-)
The following is only a link away:
"[..] This way, the results show that higher powers of ultrasound, of nearly 40 W/L, in addition with the movement of the spirit, improve the extraction of phenolic compounds in a 33.94%, after seven days of ageing. Then, applying Youden and Steiner’s experimental design, eight experiments of ageing were performed, and the samples obtained by this new method were analysed to obtain information related to their physicochemical and oenological characterisation in order to determine the experimental conditions that produce the best ageing results.[..]"
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1350417716...
http://ac.els-cdn.com/S1350417716304187/1-s2.0-S135041771630...
There's an ISO standard for conducting these kinds of tests, and they apparently followed it. It's easy to think of perceptual tests that mitigate your concerns: for instance, you can triangle test.
http://www.fendercustomshop.com/series/artist/jaco-pastorius...
I'm guessing it won't make me play like Jaco. ;-)
Also, you said bigger is better. What size/volume would you recommend?
Is there any brand of ultrasonic cleaner that is most recommended or are they basically all the same?
I have a 1.5L one now and it is constantly too small for my jobs. I'd like to see how it does at vacuum sealed meat, prior to sous vide, also.
I've just been skimming: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/j.2050-0416.1995....
Although it says "An increased surface to volume ratio of the miniature cask, and increased oxygen concentration, appeared to enhance both extraction and further transformation of wood components, resulting in the dominance of a single characteristic, sweet, after 21 months of maturation." they go on to mention
"maturation of Scotch malt distillate in miniature casks did not enhance the sensory quality of the final product, nor did miniature casks provide a suitable model of an accelerated Scotch whisky maturation process."
I would be super interested in a Kickstarter for open source, though I wonder if it would suffer from the same issues that Kickstarter itself suffers from (lots of ambitious projects, most not being delivered on time).
I'm actually working on that, please checkout my profile for link or this https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13604703
The problem you illustrated is a challenging one, and I'm still thinking about how to solve it, would love to hear ideas.
Kickstarter still does fine, despite this problem, but it has lead to people using Kickstarter as the final fundraising for manufacturing, which doesn't make a tonne of sense for software.
One option is a milestone-based system where the project author splits the work up into various chunks, and the funding gets released as they are done (as voted on by contributors within a few days of completion?) where if things start diverging too much from expectations the funding stops?
One thin that may be interesting besides developer-driven proposals, but community-driven requests. Sort of how bounties exist already, but potentially on a different scale. People could put their money where their mouth is and pre-commit to their dream open source self-hosted whatever. Maybe even pre-committing money to specific features.
Something like Patreon could exist for software people if people want to fund a maintainer, though that's less clear.
I've thought about the milestone system (it was the first thing that came to my mind) but do consensus based software have unchanging requirements? More importantly how is consensus reached? I think that for smaller scope like libraries or plug-ins it makes sense where there is one clear purpose. ex) write a scraper plugin that returns data.
Community driven requests would most likely be function or feature requests. It's exactly how you've described where you can put up a bounty for specific features where a developer will come along and implement it. If it's not worth their time (amount of work is far more than the money raised) than a few things could happen:
- another developer could do it for the purpose of building a portfolio or gathering resumes etc.
- the requester/backer can advertise it to his peers or companies, if it gets enough backing it would entice more developers to work on it.
Finally, the Patreon model where a lone dev or a team will work on maintaining an open source project on an ongoing basis.
It gets me super excited just thinking about the possibilities but I'm grossly overlooking the pitfalls and challenges of bringing people together in the first place.
I'm going to do some brainstorming and maybe lay it out in a blog post this weekend.