Why Telegram Voice Calls Are Blocked in Countries Like China or Iran

tptacek 9 years ago |

Here's an open letter co-signed by over 70 cryptography experts refuting Durov's claim that WhatsApp is compromised by the behavior he cites. Are all of them wrong?

http://technosociology.org/?page_id=1687

Meanwhile, if I was promoting Telegram, Iran would not be a country I would put in any headlines:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-iran-cyber-telegram-exclus...

rapsey 9 years ago |

> By claiming that their service is secure, WhatsApp may be involved in the single largest case of consumer fraud in human history.

I admire their bravery for saying that publicly. They are absolutely correct. WhatsApp is being very insincere about their security. Anyone who wants to find out which parts are fishy, look at the parts of their product that aren't mentioned in their security whitepaper. There is a reason they are silent about them.

subliminalpanda 9 years ago | |

Can you elaborate on what they are not mentioning?

kerhackernews 9 years ago |

I don't know if there is currently any proof that WhatsApp does those things. WhatsApp isn't even popular in China, they all use WeChat

shujito 9 years ago |

Then, what's safer? Whatsapp or Telegram?

Also what's happening to this post? It was flagged, then deleted just a little while ago.

bilal4hmed 9 years ago | |

Signal :)

kerhackernews 9 years ago | | |

This! I just wish they used username/passwords instead of phone numbers for conversations.

subliminalpanda 9 years ago | | |

If that's what you need then maybe ChatSecure is what you're looking for.

srikz 9 years ago | | |

But, isn't Signal by WhisperSystems whose tech has been implemented by WhatsApp and has also been audited by WhisperSystems. If we are to believe that WhatsApp is compromised, how can we believe that Signal isn't?

tptacek 9 years ago | | |

If you don't understand the nature of the complaint Durov is repeating, why are you commenting on it?

srikz 9 years ago | | |

Sorry, but why the negativity? Could have been clarified like the next comment.

tptacek 9 years ago | | |

Injecting non-sequiturs into threads wastes everyone's time, which is what you did. Incidentally: the clarification downthread, while valid, is not the reason your comment is a non-sequitur.

bilal4hmed 9 years ago | | |

signal is open source, so we can audit their code and see that they are doing what they claim to be. Cant do that with WhatsApp.....I am not sure if the server code for Signal is open source though

bilal4hmed 9 years ago |

Also signal implemented domain fronting to get around this issue....why is telegram complaining ?

bilal4hmed 9 years ago |

man those accusations against WhatsApp are quite big....any truth ?

tptacek 9 years ago | |

No.