Show HN: Coinerra – JavaScript Crypto Miner(coinerra.com) |
Show HN: Coinerra – JavaScript Crypto Miner(coinerra.com) |
"giving your users the awesome experience they deserve."
Awesome experience indeed.
> Q: Will This Work On My Site? > A: Technically yes, economically probably not.
That same answer goes on to discuss how much revenue you could actually expect from using this crypto miner: "With just 10–20 active miners on your site, you can expect a monthly revenue of about 0.3 XMR (~$29)."
It seems like in some situations, where users are incentivized to stick around and mine for a bit, this could be an effective model. It seems like there is room for improvement in tuning power consumption and fees charged. Plus, if ad blockers block miners, it's likely a non-starter... but the merits of that are a different debate.
Mentions https://medium.com/@MaxenceCornet/coinhive-review-embeddable...
$0.36 a day For this exact website, it’s 4 to 5 times less than what it makes with non-intrusive ads (banner + text only)
If I could generate credits when I'm plugged in on my laptop, then use those credits later from my mobile, I wouldn't have to worry about battery.
Even better, if I could generate credits over-night when energy is cheapest - maybe I'd have enough credits to browse the internet ad-free the next day while supporting the creatives/content-producers.
> It's the cheapest miner on the market: 85% to you - 15% to Coinerra
A rapid search turns up crypto-loot.com with 88% payout. That said, it's good to see more actors in this space. Just please get your facts straight!
Almost as bad as the 'subscribe' popup nonsense way too many websites have.
It triggers the this is scammy response (no matter how unjustly).
That being said, the primary concern so far seems to be the CPU melting effect of the mining. (I don't want to use my battery, CPU, etc to make you money without you asking me.) Rather than blacklisting certain domains or requests to crypto-mining services, I'd like to see something that protects against intensive scripts in general.
Here's how I could see it working:
* Services like Coinerra want to do intensive work without blocking site responsiveness, so they should use something like Web Workers.
* Browsers should provide user controls to throttle the execution of Web Workers. This will protect their resources from most intensive scripts.
* Intensive execution on the main thread already has (inelegant) protections (no responsiveness, script timeout warnings). Maybe these will need to be improved as more sites request intense, continuous computations on behalf of clients.
Unfortunately, crypto miners themselves will have little incentive to add the controls on their end, because it is best for their customers if the hashes are computed at the maximum rate. (Well, they will have a little incentive, because throttling may allow them to fly under the radar, providing smaller revenue without being blocked entirely.)
haha
Anyways, it's time for a miner blocker browser plugin I guess, this sucks!
Mining services are fighting back by registering additional "random" domains though: https://github.com/jspenguin2017/uBlockProtector/issues/636#...
The serious use case for these miners is that you have some kind of incentive for your users to mine, not just have it mine randomly in the background. I guess it works for pure donations but take a look at "Use Cases" on the front page for a couple of examples of what I mean.
I mean it's not like it'd make sense to flame blizzard or bethesda because you can't play as long as you'd like on a laptop/mobile.
You use the proper device for the proper use, and this way you just get an additional option to trade value with the site owner. You're free not to mine in the same way you're free to get a paid account if you don't like ads.