The State of JavaScript Frameworks, 2017

The State of JavaScript Frameworks, 2017(npmjs.com)

51 points by freeman478 8 years ago | 16 comments

I'm actually quite shocked at how dominant Backbone was. Granted it was when npm was less popular, but still... impressive.

React dominating, as expected. Vue growing, which is nice. Angular and Ember both seem to hanging in there but it's clear they aren't where the community is interested.

I think we all knew that, but it's nice to see numbers. Kind of sobering to see Angular and Ember are basically as popular as Backbone is tho. Of the two - Ember seems more healthy.

simlevesque 8 years ago | |

I know that some frameworks were built upon backbone. You'd use frameworkX which would wrap Backbone. You wouldn't use Backbone directly.

abritinthebay 8 years ago | | |

The biggest one being Marrionette but yeah, that’s likely a factor.

wppick 8 years ago |

It's a shame that Angular2/4 hasn't gotten more traction. It's really well designed in my opinion. People seem to be flocking onto the react train (possibly mindlessly). I found react to be quite lacking. I don't like redux and it's crazy indirection, and I haven't been able to find a way to handle forms in react that even comes close to angular2/4.

robwormald 8 years ago | |

Angular core team here - unfortunately, this post ignores Angular 2+ entirely (its @angular/core on npm) - the numbers are only for AngularJS (1.x). We’ve reached out to the NPM team to get this corrected.

See https://npm-stat.com/charts.html?package=%40angular%2Fcore&p...

cc81 8 years ago | |

Not specific for forms but have you looked at MobX instead of Redux? I think that is a better fit for most applications and you don't need so much boilerplate and diffrent thinking.

chillax2 8 years ago | |

The reactive form framework built into angular is everything I wish I had when working on an angularjs application.

I'm working on a new project in angular and I'm very impressed with the built-in routing support. Also, I wasn't a big fan of using rxjs Observables everywhere at first, but they are now my favorite thing about writing javascript.

I'm really looking forward to taking advantage of the service worker support as well.

dbbk 8 years ago | |

I mostly use Ember and have been working with React recently. I'm kinda baffled that it's as popular as it is. Nothing works out of the box, it's an exercise in frustration trying to get an SSR app with asynchronous-data-loaded containers working. This all just works out of the box with Ember.

I can't help but feel like it's only useful as a low-level primitive that is still lacking a "full stack" framework on top. Even Create React App, which is an official project for this purpose, falls way short of what apps need in 2018.

chrisco255 8 years ago | | |

This works out of the box with Next.js (a React-based framework), which is published by Zeit, and has SSR, lazy loading, file structure based routing, etc all set up for you.

abritinthebay 8 years ago | |

> I don't like redux and it's crazy indirection

Can you explain this? There's very little indirection (if any) in Redux.

acemarke 8 years ago | | |

I'm a Redux maintainer, and both Dan Abramov and I would disagree.

Describing behavior as plain object actions _is_ a form of indirection, compared to code that directly applies a state update. It's a tradeoff. Use of plain object actions takes some more code, but opens up the power of middleware and time travel debugging.

youeseh 8 years ago |

What about Svelte / Sapper? Too small to register?

nasso 8 years ago | |

What about insert any of the other 40-thousand framworks?

Probably too small to register, yes. Js has it's share of frameworks. There are alot of them...