China just laid out how it wants Google to help it persecute its Muslim minority

China just laid out how it wants Google to help it persecute its Muslim minority(businessinsider.com)

53 points by mike22223333 7 years ago | 11 comments

fx32s 7 years ago |

Does this mean Bing is already doing this?

craftyguy 7 years ago | |

Yes, it does.

tjpnz 7 years ago |

Don't be evil?

writepub 7 years ago |

Bing is already operational in China. This headline is clickbait - these rules apply to all online media companies, domestic and foreign. Google's current rounds in the news cycle landed it in the headline - nothing more specific.

dev_dull 7 years ago | |

Nobody is debating that it’s not already happening. We’re merely pointing out that it’s morally wrong. (Save me the false equivalences in the USA — we’re far better off than nearly every county wrt free speech).

isserson 7 years ago |

It's impossible to take American journalists seriously after decades (almost two now) of apologizing for the systematic murder, torture, and displacement of Muslims across the world. Google understands that America is in decline and China ascendant, it's future depends on access to the Chinese market. The American bourgeoisie are so blinded by ideology they can't see how they are on the cusp of being superseded. Articles demanding censorship appear weekly in American media. Suppose it's freedom of speech for thee, and not for me, then?

PhasmaFelis 7 years ago | |

Are you aware that there is more than one journalist in America? Some are for censorship and oppression, some are against. Don't act like they're all some sort of hypocritical hivemind.

isserson 7 years ago | | |

American journalists from various media outlets all propagandized the Iraq war to the point of deceiving the public:

* https://web.archive.org/web/20070403153921/http://65.109.167...

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_coverage_of_the_Iraq_War

Stepping back from the liberal imagination that we are all self-actualizing, free individuals, it's easy to see how journalists function within society and the economy according to class politics.

Just look at how American media & technology companies all shut down Alex Jones:

* https://www.theverge.com/2018/8/6/17656840/alex-jones-infowa...

American elites have been clamoring for corporate and state censorship for years.

askaboutit 7 years ago | |

Google does not rely on the Chinese market. If anything the Chinese rely on western markets and that includes the startups and factories within China. They’re going to need the western market more than their own in the future. Rich nations import and export. China’s exporting far more than its importing.

isserson 7 years ago | | |

I doesn't rely on China because it decided to leave. Now it has to come back, or it will be shut out of a market of billions.

China is either the first or second largest world economy based on how you want to measure. It's rapid growth alone will assure Chinese economic power if not outright hegemony for the next century. China is also growing it's sphere of influence. Google is a corporation like any other, and if it misses the boat on getting into the Chinese market while it is still developing, it could be the Sears of search tomorrow.

Rich nations get rich by developing their economies. I don't think anyone has done that better than China. The US economy is exporting soybeans and shuffling debt. Who produces all of the high technology and is constantly innovating in the energy sector of tomorrow? China has seized the commanding heights of the economy.

But yeah, really, the world's biggest market is vital for Google.