Oracle Says New HP CEO Stole Technology

Oracle Says New HP CEO Stole Technology(dailytech.com)

21 points by malabar 15 years ago | 11 comments

irrelative 15 years ago |

Source code theft... right. Tech journalists need to stop referring to source code as the "secret ingredient" or what have you. What could possibly be in the code? A faster algorithm than hundreds of PhDs have discovered? Or a novel approach to something (which of course would be covered by patents)? Maybe Oracle has discovered a new system call in windows that speeds up their file seek time, but for some reason isn't documented by Microsoft.

The whole notion of stealing code being worth anything is laughable. What do you do if you have stolen code and you need to extend it? Or if you need to fix bugs in it? If your engineers are any good, it'll take more time for them to figure out how the stolen stuff works than to build a comparable version.

semipermeable 15 years ago | |

Who says its source code that was stolen? "Intellectual Property" covers a very wide range.

It's easy for Oracle to stand up, roll out the long list of their patents, call "They're infringing!", and then the burden is on SAP to show they were not.

I'm sure that some of SAP's products have similar (or near identical) UIs and APIs to Oracle's copyrighted works. Whether the similarity is intended, who knows...

kujawa 15 years ago |

I really don't think I've ever seen a company that doesn't give a shit about its public reputation as much as Oracle. Maybe Blackwater.

"We don't have to care, we're the database vendor."

maximilianburke 15 years ago | |

Blackwater at least felt that their name was tarnished to the point of changing it.

pavlov 15 years ago | | |

Waiting for Oracle to become Sibyl Corporation... Kinder, gentler, more feminine.

spinchange 15 years ago |

This piece doesn't explain or detail the circumstances of the suit whatsoever. SAP has already admitted fault. They acquired a company called TomorrowNow that was scraping it's clients' Oracle servers to service parts of their systems that it wasn't licensed or authorized to work on. What is being fought over now is damages.

What's new to the story is the public accusation that Apotheker was directly responsible. (He was involved with the acquisition as an executive and had become CEO by the time the suit was filed)

So, if the HP board didn't see this coming, they simply didn't vet Apotheker well enough or are still underestimating Ellison. Probably both.

calloc 15 years ago |

For anyone that is not exactly sure what is going on, here it is laid out in laymans terms:

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9180238/SAP_accepts_l...

And this is what is being sued over:

> TomorrowNow provided maintenance services for customers of Oracle's PeopleSoft and J.D. Edwards software, and Oracle accused the company of downloading software patches and other materials illegally from its customer support website.

wwortiz 15 years ago |

Oracle comes off as the boy who cried wolf to me.

Even though in this case the boy may have seen a coyote.

unexpected 15 years ago |

This is a classic technique: Oracle is trying to distract from HP's lawsuit against Oracle by discussing a different issue to divert attention.

Man, Oracle likes to play rough.

spinchange 15 years ago | |

HP settled their lawsuit with Oracle prior to hiring this new CEO.

jonursenbach 15 years ago |

Oh here we go again.