God. Its so creepy casually stereotyping people by their race and gender in this manner.
Ironically it’s always from so called social justice moralists.
It reminds me of the Stephen fry quote about the church and sex.
> It’s the strangest thing about this church - it is obsessed with sex, absolutely obsessed. Now, they will say we, with our permissive society and rude jokes, are obsessed. No. We have a healthy attitude. We like it, it’s fun, it’s jolly; because it’s a primary impulse it can be dangerous and dark and difficult. It’s a bit like food in that respect, only even more exciting. The only people who are obsessed with food are anorexics and the morbidly obese, and that in erotic terms is the Catholic Church in a nutshell.
These blog authors seem to have an analogous obsession with gender and race.
Now people are, rightfully, angered about the false accusations, but the accusers use this to say "see, we said you are toxic!"
Guess we gonna have fallout from this bullshit a long time...
Someone felt attacked personally, criticized it on Twitter and now everything is going downhill...
Edit: relevant wikipedia article [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OK_gesture#As_a_white_power_sy...
It seems online culture is so plastic that we can quickly see a move from irony/trolling to sincere usage. How is a person not at the fronts of where hateful groups and their opponents meet supposed to navigate a battlefield of memes and conventions that see distinct transitions in cultural symbols (like a phase change almost) from benign to harmful within weeks?
On the other hand, the mentioned female developer has probably had quite a lot of such experiences with direct and indirect racism, perceived or actual, but either she kept quiet or it didn't blow up that much.
E.g. person who doesn't agree with my favorite ideology on all its points?
I think they do, but most client-side JS apps are horribly designed. They load the whole bundle at once, display ads, have setTimeouts and other unnecessary things that add to the bloat.
Native apps aren't great either, I hate the Twitter and Reddit ones, they constantly fail to load stuff, block and restart.
Isn't this a good thing? Genuinely asking.
I have so many questions and hope to never have to answer any of them.
... I should have left it alone as soon as I saw the comments about capitalism being shit and intersectionalism being a real thing.
I thought the article offered an interesting argument that front end development has suffered from increasing over-engineering in the last decade, and this over-engineering can be explained by cultural factors and the influence of large corporations like Facebook.
I am a brown guy in a 3rd world country who has been using react for long enough to be an early adopter. Reading this suddenly transformed me into a 6.6ft, white skinned, blue eyed Aryan wet dream.
> The concept of "We Live In A Meritocracy" becomes firmly implanted in the community.
> We reach today, where two prominent React community leaders quit Twitter rather than deal with accusations of emerging white nationalism and machismo-fueled poor behavior.
> The popularity of React is fueled by corporate-sponsorship, a tech industry seeking validation by becoming Hard and Masculine, and aggressive Capitalist principles (validation through work, market dominance, a continuous supply of skilled Labor) that result in Things being placed before People.
This is next level satire, right? right? Or at least something generated by an AI bot fuelled by China/Russia/Ghost of USSR. And the comments below the article take the cake. I have seen better comments on threads in /b/
It does seem like a lot of the grievances in this post are about arbitrary choices by the author or the teams using React as part of their stack.
Maybe I'm not attached enough to React that I can understand the problem.
The first person misunderstood the second.
The first person started accusing a well know React dev of being a white supremacist on Twitter because of that misunderstanding.
People who care about social justice rallied to the first persons cause, saying React would protect white supremacists.
React devs didn't know anything about the accused dev being a WS, because he wasn't one.
It got all cleared up that the dev was wrongly accused and the accuser publicly apologized.
React devs got angry that people who care about social justice can run around and ruin peoples lifes with false accusations.
Uh, huh.
At least in the US there never was widespread slavery of white people because they are white, or widespread ideas of white skin color being associated with lesser intelligence, culture or whatever.
It is, however, very important not to get hung up in racist terminology. For example it only serves the racists' cause to argue who is actually black or who is actually white, or how much of each.
It's not like the average heckler on the street asks somebody where he is from, his religion, what he is doing for a living or what his ancestral gene mixture is!
If the inverse became fashionable in 10 years, the same kind of people (if not the same people) would do a 180o.
I don't know about "react-gate" yet, but I'm sure to find out in a few minutes.
It would not be appropriate to post with the title “black men in tech had a twitter meltdown” but it is at least this okay with white dudes for the same reason why it's fine to make fun of The Mountain if he can't hit a squat in the gym but it's not fine to make fun of your buddy who's trying to make a change in his life. Of course how much better The Mountain is than your buddy at lifting heavy stuff is probably a larger discrepancy than the gap between white men and and minority women's abilities to affect the course of the developer landscape but that's the mechanism.
Downvotes, however, are not moderated...
Sorry, English is not my native language, and I’m genuinely interested because I’ve been using this word quite often and didn’t know it’s offensive.
Only among people who think just because everybody should change how they talk to accommodate their (frequently updated) ideologies...
Just as "guys" don't like to get called "girls".
>guys: Informal Persons of either sex.
I guess it’s one of those differences between British and American English. Good to know, because it seems like one could easily get in trouble for using it incorrectly (in the British sense) in the US!
Thanks!
I found a page[0] with more info and link references to multiple sources that seems to explain everything in detail.
[0]: https://dev.to/aryanjnyc/ken-wheeler-and-dan-abramov-deactiv...
https://twitter.com/tatianatmac/status/1164912554876891137
part of this breakdown: https://dev.to/aryanjnyc/ken-wheeler-and-dan-abramov-deactiv...
I think people with such obsessions, bringing their baggage of politics everywhere should be thrown out of tech communities discussing tech. They can form whatever meta-community they like for that.
I have seen absolutely zero ..."white supremacism" in React community leaders, and the whole idea is too bizarro to begin with.
If someone is both a white supremacist and a React developer (which I find implausible, but ok) that's bad, but it's not like it's any sizable part of React devs, or characterizes the tone of the community, or affects anything or whatever...
It seems that the cancel-cult left has really taken hold, at least in the loud places on social media.
Basically, a symbol for you to look at and the other person saying "Hah, you're an idiot!".
The problem here was that someone said he did it again, which he didn't.
When you're treated better the lighter/whiter you are, then it makes sense why people would argue about it
I will never understand this mindset that racism is only a problem if there is some nasty history involved.
Racists can often behind ignoring that distinction. It's called a dog-whistle.
One shouldn't use history to justify their own racism.
> Racists can often behind ignoring that distinction. It's called a dog-whistle.
That's simply not what a dog-whistle is.
And yes, ignoring nasty history is dog-whistling. You can say certain things, which are clearly perceived as racist by racists and the offended, and then avoid responsibility by claiming "it's only because the history".
Example: It's not antisemitic to blame George Soros (a jew) for political influence through his money, except that there is a broad and infamous history of such conspiracy theories. Same for "dual loyalty".
It's not racist or insensitive to use black-face as a disguise, except for the long history of mistrel-acts of making fun of Afro-American (slaves) for being lazy, uncultured and stupid.
It's not necessarily racist to suspect a Muslim of being a terrorist. Hey, there may actually be valid and objective reasons for such a suspicion. But especially because of the context and the history of Muslims being accosted as such and being targeted all the time, such claims better have substantial proof.
The idea that there is a discrimination against white people in "traditionally white" countries is absolutely ridiculous. Ethnically motivated violence, for example in the US, is also quite one-sided.
Also please be aware that many comments here are complaining about complaints of a minority (among developers) they don't belong to.
It's really not a big surprise that white male developers don't quite get why black female developers feel offended. Maybe something to think about...
And even if you don't agree that something is offense-worthy, please just acknowledge that some people genuinely do feel that way and that most of them are actually silent on the issue, exactly because of the reactions on display here.