It would be interesting to see how many times they've patched the same processor and how much slower they are now than when they were made due to all the mitigations.
Phoronix has a bunch of articles where they do this but they are on a per-mitigation basis as I recall
The errata lists the same vague info: https://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents...
Is Broadwell and before not affected or are those not mentioned since their support cycle has ended? I'd be surprised with Intel spinning up Haswell production for lower grade CPUs on 22nm, but I can't be sure.
I can def see a world soon where all of Intel's woes have combined to the point that they've run out of patch space for their microcode updates, and you have to pick and choose what you want mitigations for.
If you are badly impacted by a bug and no one else is, you are the only one with an incentive to find and fix it. You might pay the CPU manufacturer to share the incentive with them, but you'd need quite deep pockets for this.
I wouldn't be surprised if widespread open source CPUs also had better debugging tools at their disposal.
With an open source CPU, by now someone would have looked at the commits that fixed the Verilog/microcode, figured out what the bug is, and there'd be a convenient command line tool to get root on the hypervisor uploaded to GitHub within an hour.
This is one of those times when from a practical perspective proprietary seems to win.
I'm not sure about that, but I must say that Intel is being surprisingly candid. Similar errata have been swept under a rug and published a dozen at a time with no workarounds for years.
That's pretty bad, actually. It means a determined adversary can simply look at the patch to figure out how to exploit vulnerable systems. (Presumably there exists a way to look at the actual unencrypted bytes being modified; if so, you can work out what it's doing.)
And since people can patch at their leisure, a determined adversary will have lots of targets to choose from after they analyze the patch.
To be fair, I don't know much about CPU microcode. But while it's true that lonewolf hackers are less likely to be a threat here, a threat does exist: governments are increasingly turning to industrial espionage-type practices (apparently even the NSA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON#Examples_of_industrial...) and this type of exploit seems, at a glance, pretty lucrative: unauthenticated users can achieve privilege escalation.
It's easy to imagine some facility somewhere of industrious Chinese reverse engineers who are pretty darn good at this, and that it's their full-time job to find and weaponize such exploits. In fact, swap out "Chinese" with "American" and you get the NSA.
EDIT: It turns out that I am mistaken: Intel microcode updates are encrypted. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Microcode#Microcode_upda...
> With the Pentium there are two layers of encryption and the precise details explicitly not documented Intel, instead being only known to less than ten employees.
I guess I'll leave the comment up, since... well, I was formerly a pentester, and it seemed like a logical sequence of arguments. That's where I learned about the technique of looking at binary diffs to work out what security patches were doing.
It's very strange to me that this is possible to encrypt, though. Isn't it "just" a matter of getting your hands on a processor + the update? Why is it impossible to dump the microcode as it's being decrypted? Sure, you won't be able to analyze the patch before it's decrypted, but are we just relying on the idea that it's too much work for someone to figure out how to listen in on the decrypting process?
Following that Wikipedia citation, the quote about it being in the heads of less than 10 employees is from 1997, so it's ancient information. I'm curious what the current state of the art is.
Some of the recorded comments on https://danluu.com/cpu-bugs/ (First update section) mesh with my observations, but I wouldn't know enough to tell if I was on to something, or just confirming my own biases.
Way more shit stuck to Intel for one reason. The speed advantage Intel had been lording over AMD (Besides compiler shenanigans) was all the corners they were cutting with there speculative execution, et al.
Amazing timing that; AMD closing those benchmark gaps and the mass meltdown mitigations in Intel products... all in the same decade Intel was court ordered to fix their unfair C compiler. Intel's domination is simply over...
Anyways I was bitching about this to my roommate, and she remarked that hey you know acquaintance X we know works in Intel software security division. I told her to give him crap about it and apparently his response was something like "we should have closed comments on that github issue". I feel like this is not a really appropriate response, even between friends.
AFACIT the package still hasn't been fixed and the official ubuntu solution is to roll back to the nonbroken version.
[0] admittedly slightly poor internal communication is also responsible, since this was observed by our support staff for our customers which didn't make it known to R&D - me
One way to do it: ship security updates using the same technique as intel, and don't release the source code for the fix until much later. I think I remember an open source project doing something similar. But of course, it seems pretty hard to manage that complexity: what if the fix introduces code changes that future commits depend on?
Interesting problem...