How Normal Am I?(hownormalami.eu) |
How Normal Am I?(hownormalami.eu) |
suuuuuuuure
.. neither validated nor insulted.
Others: No (88%)
hm that is not good at all!
Interestingly enough no other metrics were affected by wearing glasses.
It would have been interesting to see some summary statistics for each of the predictions.
Second time with an external Logitech HD 1080p Received a 83%.
I am apparently much more attractive and much thinner in HD.
If you actually look like you're 21, then how is an AI supposed to "see through that", when all it has is an image of your face?
People say I look like Jesus (the "Europeanized" version).
On the other hand, my life expectancy is in the 60's, despite having a normal BMI.
beauty 6-8
BMI very vague 19-25 anyone could guess
it says i lied about age because I chose the two year higher instead of 3 years younger
But I remember back in college a friend was severely overweight and eventually he was motivated to lose weight. Diet and exercise details aside, in a couple of years he became a BMI 28, but very low fat, ripped and chiseled muscled up individual. But interestingly, he mostly kept his fat person face, those cheeks, while they shrank, weren't going away.
* 5.5 with glasses, 7.5 without. Glad I wear contacts, I guess.
* Age predicted: 20, truth: 30+
* BMI predicted: 18.7, truth: 22
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
7.5/10 here btw. :D
https://www.sherpapieces.eu/overview/predicting-your-bmi-fro...
Like you said, muscles matter quite a bit. It's attractive to use photos af athletes to train the algorithm, because there are a lot of websites that show their photos along with their weight and height (which you need to calculate a BMI). But since muscles weigh so much more than fat, athletes have high BMI with slim bodies, which warps the algorithm.
I didn't use athletes for this reason (it's trained on a diet of 50% Chinese celebrities and 50% American arrest records). But I found projects that do use these photos.
I wanna say I'm disappointed, but I'd be lying. I'm happy that A.I. cannot detect us black people. I'll need to do something about that left ear though.
After googling: Yep, that's a van Gogh reference.
https://www.vangoghgallery.com/misc/van-goghs-ear.html
> Vincent took the ear and wrapped it in newspaper. With a hat pulled down over his wound, he, with ear in hand, left the house to go to a “maison de tolerance”, a brothel close to the house. There he asked for a girl named Rachel who he gave the ear to saying “Guard this object carefully.”
Is there some extremely difficult algorithmic problem preventing these systems from working on people with darker skin?
I had presumed it was a long corrected oversight but it still appears to be a problem.
I'm extremely nearsighted so through the glasses my face looks smaller than it actually is. The outlines of my face are shifted.
Whenever my gfs daughter wanted to play with snapchat and me I had to take off the glasses for it to work.
Cannot decide if I should respond with a meme reference to Samual L. Jackson asking "Does he look like a *?" or ask "Do you also cook? Do you have a deep voice? Are we only used to seeing your torso and your hands? Do you have a popular YouTube show?"
But frankly, that's interesting the accommodation you have to make for an algorithm to play with your daughter. I wonder what other accommodations people make in life because of algorithms.
Also HN: "show your face to this random site so an algorithm can tell you if you're hot or not"
Just something to think about.
Also it called me ugly :<
Edit:
I just ran the website for a second time and didn't change my clothes or anything, and it gave me very different results.
ie. gender, age, bmi, attractiveness all different.
I don't think the ratings for this is very stable & reproducible.
at least it rated my girlfriend as abnormally attractive. :)
Great site. Thank you for sharing it.
It points it out by "raising your eyebrows to make it think you're less fat" and "move your head around to change your age".
I think that's part of the point though -- the claim is that these are being used, regardless of how predictable they are.
This of course requires an enormous effort in the preparation of the material.
https://www.doesmyrobotunderstand.me/ (please, feel free! We need subjects...)
I wish I'd known about the Javascript face analysis beforehand! And also how hard it would be to learn Javascript ;) And how to do that cool embedded video thing.
They also made some great points about how ridiculous some of these algorithms are (shake your head to lose 10 years of age, or just trying to predict BMI from a face photo)
It also tells me my BMI is about 9 points lower than reality which is also fun.
And that I've got as long left to live as I have lived already which is pretty awesome.
But it also tells me I'm ugly, which isn't so much fun :P
At least it correctly identified me as a man with 97% certainty. So I can stop worrying about that now :D
As well algorithm thinks that I'm quite ugly. Well, I don't care even if algorithm is right, as algorithm is not my second wife.
Forget buttons, dialogs, beautifully designed pages. Future UIs should have videos of a person talking telling you what is happening and what to do next!
Only if those who want to can turn it off and get text. It works in this context, but most contexts I'm going to guess it would be more rather than less frustrating.
I mean for all we know the guy could have been a deepfake
Also chuckled when I came closer to the camera when prompted, and it labeled me as a "Good boy"...
Great website to share with my non-tech friends and family, they're tired of my rants but this is very well articulated.
Any chances of including other languages for wider reach?
No one got higher than 6.2.
Zac Efron: 6.2
Henry Cavill: 5.9
Pierce Brosnan: 5.1
Shemar Moore: 4.7I would imagine there is some sort of penalty given the face is on a 2D surface.
I didn't give it access to my camera but it sounds like it's giving "attractiveness" ratings, but jeez, that's super complex. I imagine this thing is measuring symmetry and proportion, but that'll only get you so far; the "hottest" A-list actors usually have a kind of wabi-sabi quality, with oversized teeth, or an interestingly shaped nose, or a crooked smile. There are also obviously all kinds of attractive, and emotional baggage that factors into what's attractive to people (they're reminded of a parent or childhood crush, etc.)
The most interesting attractiveness-measurer I ever saw was a subreddit where you'd post your own photo, and members of the community would post photos of people who are equal to your own attractiveness, so it effectively threw ego out of the equation.
Although, it did say I'm 16 with a BMI of 18.3, which is a huge undershot. There's no way I lost 45 pounds since I last weighed myself.
Were you able to select the other camera if you reloaded the page?
I wanted to see how much the camera quality affects these scores so I wanted to try on mobile but I can't get it to switch to the front camera.
edit: And my wife actually got recognized despite being black. But it decided she’s ugly (3.4) and has no idea how old she is ;)
I'm just going to assume I look like I'm 20
abnormally young, which is a normal observation by others of me.
The life expectancy is probably fair even though
BMI is just about right, 19.6
Am not a good boy :-D
This is fascinating and I also approve of the cause and message. Yet more reasons to have a simple camera cover.
Try refreshing the page, or using a different browser.
Our brave new world of "computer said so"…
Great presentation though, kudos!
Maybe it's because programmers tend to think categorically, but I find HN frequently has this problem where people are freaking out like "why is it okay when Mozilla does X but you don't want Google to do X?!" as though we're supposed to treat every question as some sort of sui generis scenario divorced from all history and context.
History matters, context matters. I (generally) trust academics and democratically-elected governments, and I (generally) distrust giant ad-tech companies and authoritarian states.
This is a site made by one guy, not the EU.
It didn't seem to cause any problems.
"Read terms: NO - Normal (88%)"
Gave me a chuckle.
We are so used to shitty TOS, cookie banners and all kinds of BS that we learned to just click them away.
In makes me a bit angry sometimes, you must often confirm you READ it, but it is undoable. They really don't expect you to either, because if they would, they'd be saying their service would really only be used by people reading their entire TOS, which would be too small a crowd to base your business on.
Of course tosdr.org is an interesting alternative and as far as cookie banners are confirmed I truly am finding myself conditioned click them away asap.
Please excuse me if this is totally wrong and I sound ignorant, I assure you I am...
Looking at it now, however, it seems like it's mostly a "what celeb do I vaguely resemble" thread, which isn't nearly as interesting.
If they actually wanted you to read it, they wouldn't present 50kb of text in a tiny font on a phone screen and give you an 'accept' button at the top (much less give you a 'view' and 'accept' button where the former leads to the 50kb of tiny text and the latter just glosses over the whole affair.)
What you can do is check the javascript code for any 'http'. So open https://www.hownormalami.eu/main.js and then do CTRL-F and type in 'http'. See if any of the things you find seem to call home. Also scan over the code visually to check for any obfuscated code patterns which could hide additional instances of data transmission. In this case you won't find any shenanigans.
In general I applaud your critical stance.
That being said, I did talk to the author a little bit, and am inclined to trust him.
Would you like me to try again/do anything else to help debug?
Edit: turning on noprocrast because I have work to get done. I'll check back in an hour or so.
The project was created as part of my role as artist within the Sherpa consortium. It's a Horizon2020 research project whose goal is to figure out what Europeans believe are the biggest issues around AI that we'll experience in 2025. Most of the other partners are universities, and I'm the lucky one who gets to translate what we learn into art pieces.
Learn more about Sherpa here: https://www.project-sherpa.eu/
All the other works I've created / am creating for Sherpa can be found here: https://www.sherpapieces.eu/
Besides working as an artist I also work as a privacy designer, which means I specialise in creating things/products that protect privacy.
This website was a very cool challenge to build, a testament to the power of javascript.
It's probably easiest to connect with a local group of people who care about these issues.
One I trained myself (BMI), and the others I just scavenged from existing Github projects. So with most of these I don't know how they were trained, what photos they were fed, etc.
I don't think I'm wrong, either.
Edit {
Also, for those who are really concerned, I did test going to the landing page and disconnecting from the internet.
It still worked, which leads me to believe the creator was in fact telling the truth.
}
Sorry for the false alarm, I should've done better checking first.
Edit: See other comment
I was able to reproduce the error, it happens when you open the "Terms and Conditions" in a new tab and then click through to the app from there.