Private Manning’s Humiliation

sudonim 15 years ago |

There's an article every day on hacker news about violations of people's rights in the United States. Yesterday it was about the FBI using gag orders to illegally get information about citizens. Today it is Obama violating the US constitution.

What are you going to do about it? What can you do about it? If it's not happening to you, or you don't know about it, you don't care. If it is happening to you, you're powerless to stop it. That's the genius of the whole thing.

VladRussian 15 years ago | |

as long as there are people who is ready to perform the acts of violation of rights or torture, it will go on. "Nothing personal, just doing my job" is a lie. It is always personal. The people doing it are enjoying the power over their subjects. It is human nature. You'd see it the moment you understand that any "inhumane" behavior is a behavior exhibited only by humans.

VladRussian 15 years ago |

the public is easy to sell on the necessary torture performed outside of the country and only to obvious terrorists. Next step is moving it closer, onto the country's soil and performed on a citizen, though still an obvious public enemy. Next steps to continue.

dpatru 15 years ago |

Thanks for posting this.

husein10 15 years ago |

how will/should obama respond?

itistoday 15 years ago |

Why isn't this on the front page given the number of upvotes it's gotten (12 in 32 minutes?).

Yet this is?

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mkr-hn 15 years ago | |

Because mob rule would turn HN into a reddit without the option to remove mob strongholds from view.

itistoday 15 years ago | | |

That this story is being silenced out in so many places... blows my mind. HN should be ashamed to participate in the censorship.

The President of the United States is blatantly violating the Constitution (in one of the worst ways), and nobody cares.

mkr-hn 15 years ago | | |

The submission needs a less inflammatory title. I don't see any evidence in the article that Obama is specifically calling for this or that he has any say in Manning's treatment.

itistoday 15 years ago | | |

Your decision to turn a willful blind eye to this is part of the problem. If you know nothing about how the government works, perhaps you should listen to the law professors linked above.

In an indirect way, you are also helping contribute to Manning's continuing detainment and torture. Sleep with that.

mkr-hn 15 years ago | | |

I'm asking for the lines in the constitution, a law, or some court ruling that gives the President the power to make the Pentagon to do something. That's not turning a blind eye, it's asking for more than bold words and demands for action.

The article doesn't provide that.

itistoday 15 years ago | | |

BTW, HN has already turned into reddit, and the fact that this didn't make it to the front page is further evidence of that.