I tried flameshot once and don't really get how one would find it more useful than Shutter.
However, I think build-in screenshot tools (that even can take videos) in Macos are already quite powerful. What do you miss?
- immediate jump into editor after taking screenshot, with...
- text annotations
- arrow annotations
- box/circle annotations
- BLUR
- upload to imgur
- copy to clipboard
Unless this does something that I'm not seeing, macOS has this tool builtin
- macOS has even better tools built in
- If that's not enough, try CleanShot
For wlroots-based compositors like sway here's the most lightweight solution: https://hg.sr.ht/~scoopta/wlrobs
For mutter (GNOME): https://github.com/flatpak/xdg-desktop-portal + pipewire
My favorite way to record on wlroots compositors is wf-recorder, which seems to be lighter on resources than the others.
There's also a fork of SimpleScreenRecorder (with similar issues, unfortunately).
Here's an overview of screencasting tools for wlroots based compositors like Sway and Wayfire: https://github.com/solarkraft/awesome-wlroots#screencasting
But no Wayland support.
Even though Windows now has a quite good screenshot story out-of-the-box with the Win+Shift+S shortcut, Flameshot seems to have some very nice annotation options that I haven't seen anywhere else.
I like postimages.org.
https://i.imgur.com/ZtR60qw.png
I love nesting screenshots into screenshots by simply hitting the PRTSC button muliple times
https://i.imgur.com/9NKvWko.png
https://i.imgur.com/n8Mwh1Z.png
EDIT:
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And you should also install "hoverzoom" under brave broser with multiple blockers:
(It has a blur tool too, but I don't recommend blurring sensitive data as if the area under the blur kernel is 1, the sum of the pixel values will be the same before and after the blur, and if an attacker recognizes which font and size it is from other parts of the screen, they use could dictionary attack for the text with the sum of the pixels as the hash to be cracked.)
Thank you!
I really love to see how well supported Wayland nowadays is. We're probably still missing a couple of things, but so far my experience has been fantastic.
Result is a blurry mess of an ide. Once that is resolved, I'll be wholeheartedly aboard the Wayland train.
I'm not sure about this statement to be honest, but maybe I never cared that much since xwayland works already good on my machines: have you tried with a custom JDK?
I had some issues with sway and Jetbrains back in November, but I fixed those by running them on the latest JDK: https://github.com/swaywm/sway/issues/3007#issuecomment-7245...
Granted that yes, probably it's not Wayland native, but using HiDPI in my case didn't seem to be a problem to be honest
If you don't want sort of broken stuff don't use a distro that changes major versions every 6 months.
But the meme is good, I'll give you that
Because I don't think, technically, it is possible for a screenshot tool to "support Wayland".
- org.gnome.Shell.Screenshot, a dbus API primarily/only used by GNOME
- wlr-screencopy, a Wayland protocol extension primarily implemented by wlroots, which Sway, Wayfire and many other compositors use
- xdg-desktop-portal, which is promoted by the freedesktop group and an abstraction of both APIs using special portals for each desktop, Flatpak compatible and delivering screen content via Pipewire (supported by Firefox and Chromium)
Flameshot now supports the former 2, I have the most long term hope for the latter one.
It is fascinating watching the near decade-long journey as Wayland tackles screenshots.
At our small company we trialed Jumpshare, CloudApp and a bunch of other stuff for both video and screenshots.
Cleanshot was by far the best, and costs the least. Unlike most tools which are SaaSified and require a monthly subscription, CleanShot still offers a one-off license. It's a steal.
The only one at our company not using Cleanshot is a developer on Linux. I think he's using Flameshot.
I just want to remark upon how strange it is Mac users are just so nonchalantly paying for bits and bobs because their OS doesn't do things they need it to do.
I spent some time getting my Linux setup _just so_ and feel like I gave macOS a good go when I tried it for 11 months as a daily driver, but I just couldn't take it.
Find a little niggling problem that bothers you just a little bit? Here's a program that fixes it, but it's $5.
Repeat ad nauseam.
I never use it though, because I take screenshot with CleanShot and then share directly in Slack / etc.
That one has at least been around for long enough, and has worked perfectly under Sway for long enough, that I had to look up its name because I had it bound to a hotkey and had forgotten what it was called.
#!/bin/bash
FILENAME="screenshot-`date +%F-%H%M%S`"
grim -g "$(slurp)" ~/screenshots/$FILENAME.png
the whole wayland ecosystem is slowling taking shape month after month. and given the radical change that wayland is, most thing have to be re-implemented using radically different tooling, libraries and approaches, which is very similar to re-inventing.
Which is to say: what you say is true, but there's no excuse for breaking screenshots (!) for half a decade in the name of "progress".
(And I say that as someone who genuinely thinks Wayland itself is great software. But the desktop projects and distros have a job to do too, and they didn't.)
I assume that this full wlroots-based compositor support (so Wayfire as well), which is great!
I like the direct upload to imgur though.
I'd like to emulate spectacle (kde screenshot tool) that allows a 2 seconds delay between rectangular area or application to be screenshoted.
awful.key({ }, "Print", function () awful.spawn("flameshot gui") end,
{description = "Make a screenshot (relies on flameshot)", group = "clipboard"})command_screenshot_interactive = grim -g "$(slurp)" - | tee $(xdg-user-dir DOCUMENTS)/screencap/$(date +%Y-%m-%dT%H:%M:%SZ).png | wl-copy
Always nice to see more tools support Wayland though.
For now I’m still happy with grim and how it integrates into my swaywm setup.
EDIT: Windows-only
I set my print screen key to it, and works every time, instead of the built-in screenshot tool where the popups/menus will have disappeared.
Honestly, the only thing I miss from Linux is i3 (window manager). For the rest, much happier with what Mac offers. I use spectacle on MacOS, which isn't nearly as good as i3wm. It's open-source. I use a bunch of other free or open source tools for Mac. Karabiner, f.lux and lots of other tools.
CleanShot is probably one of the few paid tools I have on my Mac. My company pays for it, and it's something like $20 one-off. Well worth it. I would have paid triple that if it worked on Linux.
I think it's a false dichotomy that Linux == free == good and Mac == paid == bad.
Also, my time is worth more to me and to my company. I feel more productive and that I waste less time fiddling on my Mac than my colleague on Linux. Perhaps it's an age thing, but I now value my time more, and prefer to fiddle only with certain things and not others.
YMMV. All the power to you for using Linux!
TBH I use GreenShot exclusively as it is seamless and does every thing I Need [0]
[0] https://i.imgur.com/x0oMzb6.png
And I can do things like this
[1] https://i.imgur.com/ZtR60qw.png
Nested fucking screenshots.
All I have to do is hit prtscrn each iteration I want to capture
- Wayland team: "Out of scope, lol" (security, keeping it as generic as possible)
- Gnome: "Works for us" (dbus APIs specific to Gnome")
- wlroots: Developing extensions to the Wayland protocol and attempting to get them into Wayland proper and adopted by others
- KDE: Mostly going the KDE way where it makes sense, but open to wlr persuasion (they will implement layer-shell, but keep their own ways for some other things)
- Freedesktop group (I'm the least familiar with this one): Promoting some stuff meant for Flatpak, but not really showing much initiative beyond that
This fragmentation is one of the reasons Wayland adoption is slow. Users expect things to work across desktops as they used to on X and developers aren't always clear about compatibility either. Many people seem to think that Wayland is just another display server (it's not, it's a protocol!) with all of the old functionality and are frustrated when they find out it is not.
The fragmentation will probably exist for quite a while. Pipewire will probably take over the screen sharing space and KDE and wlroots will share more protocols (Gnome gonna Gnome, of course), but there are just many things that are compositor family- or even compositor specific, like an xkill-equivalent, which I still miss dearly.
Wayland doesn't actually support screenshots, it's all extensions.
Breaking, or wholly removing, loved and important features because the developers believe they know better is sort of the modus operandi of the Gnome team; and don't you dare file a bug report. They don't accept criticism graciously.
See also: file picker icons, desktop icons, task tray, et cetera.
I generally parse this as half-baked, not battle-tested, and difficult to use.
I mean, no one was surprised in 2016 when Wayland landed that there would be bumps in the road. It's 2021 now!
