https://twitter.com/politic_animal/status/142901686896309453...
Bus = something you just walk on
Coach = longer distance and prebooked
I'm in Canada and I can't think of any meaningful distance you could cover in this way. Maybe Toronto-Barrie. Our cities are all so far apart, they are mostly isolated hubs and spokes.
Curious in the US, would there be any regions where you could get anywhere by this method?
You could get much, much further using coach routes.
From the Barrie bus stop you need to get on Ontario Northland to go further, but that is a regional bus and is significantly costlier. I paid over $90 each for the regional bus to Toronto - compared to some of the pre-pandemic flight deals: Abbostford BC to Hamilton ON for $17! Greyhound is no longer in Canada - you used to be able to cross the country using Greyhound. The Bolt Bus and others can be good options, I've gone overnight from Toronto to New York. I've also taken these buses in Europe, and yes you do transfer in Lille.
Our hack was to take the CasinoRama bus from Toronto to Rama for $5, or on the first trip it was free and they gave us play money to spend at the casino.
I would have to check to see if Sacramento is possible without resorting to rail or coach.
Edit: actually, going to Big Sur looks to be possible with the MSC bus system. It's been a while since I rode in that region and Monterey isn't part of the SC Metro system anymore. From Big Sur I could imagine it's possible to get even further down the coast.
The last time I looked into this, no. There is a gap, I think around Solano, that requires BART or Amtrak.
But with a car you can drive from Baltimore to Montreal in like 10hrs so...
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The National Express! I was too poor to afford the train so would use the busses. Often the bus was faster than the trains for London - Edinburgh, usually for weather related outages. The train is way nicer.
You were incredibly unlucky if the time you took the train had a 5 hour delay.
>Megaloping has only three simple rules. One: All vehicles used must be operated by a public transit company. Two: Using regional or long-distance transit systems is forbidden. Three: No megaloper can walk more than two miles.
Whereas a proper sleeper train does that in "just" 7 days.
NYC and Philly are so close that they could almost be considered the same metropolitan area, so it’s not very impressive!
Edit: also Baltimore and Washington, but those are even closer.
(MBTA's Providence line, gap, CTRail's Shore Line East, Metro-North’s New Haven Line)
Indeed, supporting this: there are some people who live in Philly and commute to New York. (Using Amtrak, not the local trains.)
It was Morecambe, UK -- after 21hrs and 24mins.
This is a really cool idea, but I would have much preferred to learn about it as a blog post or YouTube video.
I used to be scared of flying (technically still am but I’ve since learned to manage that fear) so over the years I’ve travelled great distances by road and rail. I’ve used coaches a lot to travel the U.K. and Europe. 12 hours has taken me from London to Amsterdam. I’d wager another 12 hours would get you as far as Eastern European, possibly even Russia.
But such a journey would have to be pre-booked coaches. You couldn’t get there on buses.
There are many, many cities and villages that are only accessible by regional buses. I doubt the residents would consider the train networks to be "better".
Hah! That’s what I thought until I wanted to go to Liechtenstein. You would think Vaduz as capital would have a rail station, but I had to take a bus.
Train is actually my preferred way to travel (that or driving. But it depends where I’m going and why).
I'd say that was technically cheating since at least part of that journey isn't going to strictly be on a bus (or coach.)
You know coaches can go straight through the Channel Tunnel? They board a special train.
- Starts is London, where I lived for 18 years.
- Goes through Kibworth Beauchamp which is about a mile from where I live now (Beauchamp is pronounced like ‘Beecham’ btw)
- Then to Derby, where I was born and grew up
- Then through Belper, where my first job was
Felt slightly surreal!
I've done the London - Edinburgh night bus. and, the Melbourne - Sydney night bus. They both kinda suck. The Edinburgh London pulled in at the Victoria station coach terminal, not kings Cross station unfortunately
You should be able to get north of Aberdeen in the time limit on a regional.
As far as I can tell, he is paying every single ticket and he is going to provide the total at the end of his journey.
Edit: My fault, it is not misleading. I didn’t get the context of somebody using British English.
It says there is a change, but not where the change is.
https://bustickets.distribusion.com/connections/results?depa...
Travel in foreign lands seems to regularly break down at ticket offices.
- Bangladesh
Hahahahaha nope.
(English country lanes are great for cycling. They are not ideal for buses. I write as someone who has spent too much time on the very winding S3 Charlbury-Woodstock service in Oxfordshire.)
Why is that, hairpins up mountains or abrupt driving or so?
I hate buses for long distance (1h+) as well for what it's worth, would much rather catch a train even though the Netherlands has some very straight and smooth asphalt, but technically my body could handle it!
This was a few years ago though, so maybe things are better now?
Cycling while avoiding roads with lots of shops is probably the best bet. In practise, private cameras aren't an issue except in very unusual cases. (E.g. with runaway children there might be a request for shop owners in a specific area to check their recordings.)
...and my perspective may be both local and outdated. Intercity coaches were actually illegal here in Germany until 5 years ago or so, intended to protect the train services (and, I guess, roads and the environment).
1. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/cannonball-coast-coast-...
I guess if you were touring Ivy League schools, you could see Yale, Columbia, Princeton, and Penn with only commuter rail networks (if you allowed yourself small local connections).
The neighbouring settlement, Schaan, is larger, has all the industry, and has the railway and two stations.
So as an American my first thought was “heck I could probably get to LA from Kansas on a 24 hour bus trip” and to see this person traveled only a few hundred KM was confusing until that was clarified for me.
I thought maybe they were gonna end up in Russia or something crazy because I have no sense of how big Europe is.
But otherwise, something like Lisbon to Moscow is very similar to the distance of LA to NYC.
Google's driving directions for these are 45 and 41 hours, respectively.
Misleading is a pretty negative thing to call someones story!
SEPTA 4 to Cecil B Moore Av
SEPTA 3 to Frankford Transportation Center
SEPTA 14 to Oxford Valley Mall
SEPTA 127 to Trenton Transit Center
NJT 409 to High St & Broad St
NJT 413 to Camden
NJT 317 to Asbury Park
NJT 139 to NY Port Authority
I had a friend who took the bus from London to Poland after each term at university. It was about 20 hours to the first stop in Poland, then another 12 or so going around Poland until it got to his city. (This was decades ago.)
coach(1) /kəʊtʃ /
▸ n.
1 Brit. a comfortably equipped single-decker bus used for longer journeys.
2 a railway carriage.
3 (also coach class) N. Amer. economy-class seating in an aircraft or train.
4 a closed horse-drawn carriage.
▸ v. travel or convey by coach.
– DERIVATIVES coachload n.
– ORIGIN C16: from Fr. coche, from Hungarian kocsi (szekér) ‘(wagon) from Kocs’, a town in Hungary.
This certainly counts as a coach in the UK: https://greysofely.co.uk/85-seat-luxury-double-decker -- it's the kind of thing you see bands use when touring.
The quality of that definition seems to be rather terse and restrictive as well. It’s got a lot of references to obscure and historic meanings of “coach”, but sense (e) is quite simply “a single-decker bus” with some references.
And even good old Megabus (a budget coach company) has double-decker coaches[1].
[1] https://www.google.com/search?q=megabus+double+decker&prmd=i...
The OP took intercity / intertown "local" buses, but they stop at many larger villages and towns along the route. This is much slower, as it usually involves leaving the large road and winding through narrow roads to the centre.
Example map for the Leicester-Loughborough-Derby bus, showing a fair number of stops, where a coach service might make 1 stop between Leicester and Derby: https://www.trentbarton.co.uk/services/skylinkderby/maps-and...
For non-UK readers, the significance of this restriction is that a person who are over 65 years of age would have been able to make the entire journey free of charge.
https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN01...
https://twitter.com/politic_animal/status/142900671464129741...
Apparently a walk-up train fare would cost £73.50, but he managed to pre-book his return trip train for £40.90
Those discounted fares are often tied to a specific train (i.e. a particular departure time on a given date). Kudos to the author for their faith in the ability to execute on the bus journey and get to the train in time for departure.
I wonder if they had a plan B for accommodation if they'd missed that last bus to Morecambe, though...
Also, for GP, afaiu, the rules in Scotland are kinder (includes long distance) https://www.transport.gov.scot/concessionary-travel/60plus-o...
P.S. Hi Andy!
It’s £1.50-that’s the price!
So technically the ticket price can be as close to £1 as you want it to be.
a) That's a coach, not a bus, and b) that's using a train to go through the tunnel and not strictly (by my definition at least) on a bus (or coach.)
You said:
> or coach