Hetzner Cloud Goes US (Ashburn/VA)(twitter.com) |
Hetzner Cloud Goes US (Ashburn/VA)(twitter.com) |
Compared to Azure VM instances, Hetzner offers like 100x more performance for each $ spent.
They undercut linode/vultr guys like many other leb providers so you should try them as well. Leb has good deals for ultra low cost vps
Can your App scale across regions?
So much this. I can't stress enough how awesome of a deal are Hetzner Cloud's offerings. I've also been running a personal Docker Swarm cluster on Hetzner for the past two years and I couldn't be happier with the way it performs. And how refreshing it is to actually be able to predict and control costs, and have absolutely no worry in the world regarding what might pop up in the invoice. If only this was true for any other cloud provider.
> Hetzner's own team of technicians in Germany provides customer support for the Hetzner Cloud servers in both Europe and Ashburn, VA. See below "How do I contact support?" We hope to soon expand the hours for the support team, and we will make an announcement when this happens.
https://docs.hetzner.com/cloud/general/locations/#who-provid...
EDIT: They do mention somewhere on their side that it's a third party DC. So probably no option to offer dedicated servers there (at least not at the same price as in their other locations). Would still be curious which one it is.
Here's the details about the sea shipment that was sent from Hetzner Online GmbH in Germany to the US subsidiary: https://www.importgenius.com/importers/hetzner-us
So they shipped a 40ft container full of servers via ship to the US? That really surprises me, I always thought this kind of equipment was done via air cargo only.
If this seems like something you'd be interested in I'd love to hear from you (email in bio). If you don't have the time to write an email but maybe take a most-questions optional survey:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfyhBThpC2mYubNPQaK...
I plan on getting a small landing page up to collect people who want to be first to try it out tonight/tomorrow at the latest.
I'm most excited about Hetzner going US because I think they're going to really shake up the stagnant (high) prices for dedicated compute in the US.
So can confirm, they also reject European orders.
Huh? I'm pretty sure the first time I heard of Hetzner was almost a decade before that. Wikipedia says they were founded in 1997.
EDIT: Ok, I take it you mean they are like 2014-era startups? A quick Google search tells me, Starlink is the only one of them that could be dated to 2014. But IMO still a strange comparison. With their business model and history I wouldn't exactly call Hetzner a startup.
I smell covert advertisement…
I’ve used wireguard for years and Tailscale solved every single complaint I had about Wireguard.
Their ACL management could use a lot of polish but moving to them and paying for the service was the easiest decision to make after how well it worked. And the product has worked flawlessly for us.
Not a paid advertisement. Just someone who never ever thinks about wireguard provisioning anymore.
I have no business connection to them but am an extremely happy free tier user.
This sounds pretty underwhelming and probably what's preventing me from migrating infra to Ashburn. Other than that, looks pretty great bang for buck.
>The CLOUD Act applies to all electronic communication service or remote computing service providers that operate in the U.S, whether those providers are established in the United States or another country.
Bravo Hetzner, no chance for servers with private data (for example European customers) on it anymore, Exoscale it will be then in the future.
It would be great if they let me see more detail about the instance types without having to sign up for an account. I'm not sure if I want to try it out, and I'm lazy, so I probably just won't now.
Scroll down on that page. Specs should be there. Or do you mean something different?
Even though they're years behind in terms of features, their base offerings have improved a lot over time and they can at least compete on cost.
AWS has a bigger ecosystem of services, and due to AWS's traffic cost you can't cheaply mix-and-match things inside and outside their ecosystem. That's probably the biggest reason to go with EC2.
The main shortcoming of the US deployment so far is no HDD storage available. I hope they can offer that soon, even if no dedicated servers. Their biggest StorageBox plan (basically scp/rsync storage though sshfs works) is 40€/month for 10TB or so. The cloud servers have SSD block storage available but it is .04€/m for 1GB i.e. 10x more expensive (though a lot more flexible) than StorageBox.
Spot pricing really closes that gap. A m6g.2xlarge is ~220/month on-demand, $140/month with a yearly RI, and $60/month as a spot instance.
Hetzner is still cheaper for sure if you have a stateful, 24/7 workload. But if I use auto scaling on spot instances (where a good chunk of compute is only running for a part of the day) then the math starts getting much much closer.
If you're stuff is low bandwidth there is probably little reason to move. You might compare the cost tiers of the size of system you use. Might also be reasonable to run personal stuff on spot pricing on AWS for cost savings.
I can honestly see these guys becoming a HUGE cloud provider.
Besides, what is holding you back from setting up DNSSEC? It's not as if Hetzner doesn't support manually managing your DNSSEC-related records. Having your registrar manage your DNSSEC deployment kind of defeats the point.
Unfortunately they're only offering their "Cloud" hosting packages for the time being, so it'll be a while before they start offering dedicated servers.
Once they offer dedicated servers in US and a managed RDS service I can finally look at moving off AWS for most services. But it looks like Cloudflare will beat them to it as their CEO has mentioned they're already working on a managed DB service, hopefully it will be as cost-effective as their R2 pricing.
I wonder if it may be related to the general business mentality (Germany vs USA), and not only the company size.
Was quite surprised that they use custom built server racks with their own custom-made mainboards delivered by OEMs. They even have their own long-term Fan testing rigs and custom HDD failure check setups.
I’m glad to see a Hetzner DC in the US, though. I hope they shake up our ridiculously overpriced cloud offerings this side of the Atlantic.
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(or if this is spam and unrelated to the article, flag it)
Here is why me having to do the conversion is annoying.
Pricing at 1 euro = 1.1579126540169 usd:
- Traffic: 20TB included, over that is $1.1579126540169 TB/month
- Instances: $0.0081053885781183 /hr, $0.0127370391941859 hr, $0.023158253080338 hr, $0.0440006808526422 /hr, $0.092633012321352 /hr
- Backups: 20% of instance price (so for first instance, $0.00162107771 ? )
- Volumes: $0.046316506160676 GB/month
- Snapshots: $0.011579126540169 GB/month
I'm willing to bet my currency conversion rate and math precision are incorrect (we all know precision is hard) and customers might get pissed if they think they're getting overcharged when they do the math incorrect on their side. A pricing calculator would help.
This appears to be a product aimed mostly at European customers that want a US presence and not to US customers.
it will be interesting to see how fast they'll grow.
Now it's used by regular people, too. And our lives are much richer because regular people use it, too.
But that means that real life rules now apply.
BTW it was always like that, want to study the human-body in the middle-ages? Go to arabia, in Europe you get burned alive.
It's laughable that a guy from the EU doesn't get it - their freedom of speech is shit.
That would be Iceland then, NOT the US.
Hetzner should split up in two Company's.
BTW:
The CLOUD Act applies to all electronic communication service or remote computing service providers that operate in the U.S, whether those providers are established in the United States or another country.
That's all there is to it. I've had this happen to me by banks before and it's shit because the customer has no recourse. They can't advocate for themselves.
This practice needs to change, industry-wide.