> “You have worked hard to build a great future for yourself and your family,” it says. “We look forward to welcoming you back.”
I think I just threw up in my mouth. "Shame if something happened to that great future you built", indeed.
They also constantly send me spam regarding Spectrum mobile with subjects like "Your response is required". I even used their cost estimator to compare it to my current provider, Mint Mobile. When I entered my current plan into their calculator, it told me that I made a mistake (because it was so much cheaper.)
If a pre-paid customer doesn't have the money, they'll either go without or downgrade their service. Less revenue for the company.
If a post-paid customer doesn't have the money...they might later. Their bill can be rolled forward, half paid, eventually sold to collections, whatever. More revenue in the long-term no question. Also, if you can charge your post-paid customers for all the things they opted into but didn't think too hard about the pricing on - SMS messages used to be $0.10 in my market, lots of parents opened up bills with 2000 text messages on them. Long distance and overseas calls were hugely expensive (and still are, in some cases) - big money makers for the carriers.
And contracts, of course. Customer acquisition is one of the biggest problems in the industry, getting people on a monthly billing cycle keeps them from easily switching.
This customer didn't owe anything, so clearly this letter wasn't intended for them, but got it by an error.
I'm all for pitchforking Comcast and other giants who have terrible business practices, but this article seems like it's trying to drum up angst when this can clearly be explained by a mistake.
If I had bad debt and an option to repay my debt or have it cancelled if I do X and X is reasonable, these are both good options.
Although your suggestion is entirely plausible, shaking the chains is also plausible.
It would at least get me to call the company because the letter is written to suggest that there is outstanding debt.
If this was an error: The proper thing to do is a follow-up letter to apologise for the confusion and confirm that their credit rating is not at risk, until that happens it’s fair to assume the worst of the company.
Nitpick: Angst != anger
I’d like to apply Hanlon’s razor, but it feels too coincidental that someone making money from this hasn’t fixed it.
He said letters like the one Schklair received are sent to numerous former customers who may have billing issues. The letters are intended to help indebted people find their way back into the financial light, he said.
I'm not sure you read the story. A small claims judge would make short work of that situation wherein they will inform Spectrum that they do not want this to go to jury.
However, this story is about a guy getting a resubscription extortion letter in light of a non-existent debt. Might as well be a foreign Prince scam because there are no damages.
The situation in TFA is what happens if you try to escalate an ignored cancellation request by stopping payment. The company graciously extends debt to cover the service that you surely didn't intend to cancel, and when your balance -- augmented by late fees, of course -- has grown to be worth their while, they try to collect.
Variations on this theme exist. Sometimes you take a less than completely active role in the sign-up process and only learn about it on collection. Sometimes you "successfully" cancel and they just fail to process it. The common theme here is ongoing transactions for ongoing service (that isn't actually delivered) in the absence of ongoing consent. It's dysfunctional that we allow this in any form, regardless of whether the form in TFA is slightly less dysfunctional or slightly more dysfunctional than the most common form, which is what I structured my comment around.
If subscription services had to register with your credit card, credit reporting agencies, or some authority that gave you a (complete!) list and a cancel button, all of these problems would go away, along with the awful business models that they enable.
I filled out their form online and went through the dance to cancel, but never got any confirmation. Only a couple months later did I hear from them, because my credit card had expired.
I had to make a deal with them to process my cancellation before paying the remainder of the bill. Strangely, it worked instantly when I was on the phone with the rep. Go figure?
Sure, but you still have to switch the billing cycle from end of month to beginning of month somehow. Customers are definitely going to care if they are suddenly hit with a 2x charge.
It's when you exceed the small claims or wait, ie you're afraid to go to court or are lapse in monitoring your own finances, that the problem accelerates out of control.
But to pretend companies should just act like we want is ridiculous.
Those factors are very dominant, but I don’t think that is the whole story. Companies are composed of individuals, and individuals have complex reasons for their behavior, much more than simply not going to jail and making money.
and which FCRA violation specifically? Basic read of FCRA... I don't see one.
I looked briefly[0] and couldn't find anything that explicitly that's what you need to do when describing options.
The only requirement that I can see they are *required* to do:
> furnishes negative information to such an agency regarding credit extended to a customer, the financial institution shall provide a notice of such furnishing of negative information, in writing, to the customer.
And it needs to be 30 days. As far as I can tell, this is in good standing FCRA wise.
https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/pdf-0111-fair-credit-r...
But there absolutely are people at companies who choose not to do bad things, or to even stop doing something bad the company was already doing, that cost the company some immediate profit, despite the fact that there wasn’t a regulation forcing them to make that choice.
This happens. People aren’t economic robots.
Maybe you want to argue that this happens such a small percentage of the time that it isn’t worth considering. Or that it isn’t practical or robust to rely on this dynamic if we wish to reduce systemic bad behavior by companies. Those are different and more reasonable claims, in my mind.
My hunch is that this is an important fact about the world that we shouldn’t discount entirely. But I do agree regulations are very important. And I’m not sure the best way to make use of the dynamic I’m describing.
You fundamentally misunderstand what I was saying. I was not claiming that they were violating a legal requirement, just that they are behaving unethically, and if the rules allow this then new rules are needed.