San Francisco exodus isn’t over, according to new migration data

San Francisco exodus isn’t over, according to new migration data(sfchronicle.com)

33 points by hncurious 4 years ago | 26 comments

ed 4 years ago |

It feels like San Franciscans have pioneered a new anti-gentrification tactic: dramatically lower the quality of life until costs reset to 2008 levels.

truffdog 4 years ago | |

Nothing creates affordable housing like violence and bad schools.

seanmcdirmid 4 years ago | |

But if costs aren't going down, then what? It seems like they've already reached an equilibrium, and the "exodus" is just normal churn (to be replaced by a roughly equivalent influx, keeping prices the same).

dkdk8283 4 years ago |

Is there anything left of SF? It’s been a shitshow for years , why anyone wants to live there is perplexing.

seattle_spring 4 years ago | |

A ton of great food, lots of concerts and shows from all over the world, great weather, and relatively easy access to world class outdoor activities?

hn_user82179 4 years ago | | |

Heaven forbid someone would want to live in a phenomenal climate in a city with good diversity and tolerant people.

AussieWog93 4 years ago | |

>why anyone wants to live there is perplexing

No comment on the city itself, or what it's like for unskilled workers, but my old boss moved there to get a US$300k/yr salary at Uber.

He was getting around US$100k/yr in Melbourne.

rkk3 4 years ago | |

The weather, but between wildfires & heatwaves's even that isn't what it used to be.

zactato 4 years ago | |

Do you live here? It's still pretty damn nice.

okareaman 4 years ago | |

Back in the 80's during the aids epidemic, conservatives used to complain about SF for being "gay" and "Sodom and Gomorrah" but then started getting called out for being homophobic in the 90's, so they had to come up with new ways to express their disdain for the city.

San Francisco is a beautiful city and I enjoy visiting. There are parts of it that are an absolute nightmare, but that's also true of any major city.

anonygler 4 years ago | | |

Box everyone who criticizes livability and safety issues of SF with 80’s era southern baptists? Nice one bro.

pyuser583 4 years ago | | |

San Francisco got a very, very bad reputation starting in the 70s - O’Farrel brothers, Jim Jones, the Symbionese Liberation Army, etc.

ctime 4 years ago |

Moving to SF (proper) for left wing ideals right now is a bit like being a staunch communist and moving to China. It's so over, thanks to the dollar (either respects, probably). Most of the bohemian, grass roots, critical thinking types have mostly moved on (or worse, joined the system). It's impossible to sustain a family there unless you've managed to get either rent control (years and years ago) or somehow won the tech and/or prop13 blood lotto. SF is ran by liberal-in-name-only (LINOs?) who block all housing then tax and ban plastics, then proceed to fly all over the globe, producing more co2 in a day than most people on the planet do in a year [1]. God help anyone rational left there tjat visits any other part of the country, even the south bay (San Jose) and see how other/families raise their children and how much more reasonable it is - i.e not having to constantly avoid subjecting yourself/family to the worst of the worst city garbage every day (the mental health crises and drug addiction epidemic, as well as crime are so heavily concentrated there its impossible to avoid). Most reasonable people opt-out and buy a huge house elsewhere.

It's got a ton of awesome history and venues, for sure, but its a place that exemplifies the problems of late stage capitalism. Foggy cold weather isn't that great either. My advice to anyone moving there chasing the money is to make as much as you can in 4 years and move out (if that's even a thing anymore going forward, with remote work being the norm).

/lived in Bay Area for 9 years, saw a friend get stabbed in the tenderloin, had someone throw a knife 9" across the street towards me when my wife and I were walking and watched it bounce in front of us, had someone throw a chunk of concrete at my windshild driving near union square.

[1](https://www.theguardian.com/environment/ng-interactive/2019/...)

locust101 4 years ago |

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