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Brave Passes 50M Monthly Active User(brave.com) |
As someone who used Firefox continuously from when it used to be called “Mozilla” until early 2020 Brave is vastly superior.
-better UI/UX
-awesome ad block built in and by default, no need for extensions
-noticeably faster
-free of the political WTF-tier decisions of the organization backing Firefox.
Edit: since when do I need to Reddit space here? Maybe I don’t post lists enough and it was always this way?
Edit2: Can anyone explain why more and more comment sections require double-spacing to nest properly? Seems like a HN-relevant question.
I'd much rather keep my choice of adblocker and browser separate.
> free of the political WTF-tier decisions of the organization backing Firefox
Instead you get a bunch of crypto stuff, silently adding affiliate codes to typed urls and similar shady shit. Neither brave or mozilla is free from controversy but from what I've seen I'd rather have mozillas than braves.
Another reason to keep firefox around is to make sure we keep a somewhat independent browser engine vendor.
Not forced on you, and I mean it, it's just a single dialog when you install with a simple Yes/No answer.
>silently adding affiliate codes to typed urls and similar shady shit
Lol, that's not even remotely true.
I used to use Brave on Android, until the day they placed an ad on the home screen (new tab page? it's been a long time), and I looked in settings and couldn't disable it, so I uninstalled it, left an honest review, and never looked back.
That said, Firefox Quantum is vastly superior in my opinion without all the crypto bullshit.
https://brave.com/privacy-updates/13-pool-party-side-channel...
You make it sound like the "need for extensions" is something bad while having the choice and control over what Ublock blocks is something far more superior than some build in ad-blocker provided by an ad-company.
> free of the political WTF-tier decisions of the organization backing Firefox.
I don't see how exchanging it to the shady business practices (yes...they fixed and excused for that...after it came out) of the Brave ad-company is better. But I guess this is actually some political statement you make here.
It’s just like AV, I want Microsoft/Apple to secure their shit and not “Norton”
Its not perfect. The business model raises my eyebrows, but then again so does google’s. And I’m not thrilled with what mozilla is putting out.
I’d love to find an alternative without the ads/crypto but for now its been a solid browser.
Actually moved from being a long time Google Chrome user to Edge Chromium.
I earn BAT and give it away. No KYC required. There are some greedy users. But those would block AdSense regardless of Brave and you would get nothing anyway.
Typical Chrome user decides they want to start moving away from Google. They rely on a ton of Chrome extensions so don't want to switch to Firefox or Safari or some other walled garden.
Brave is a good drop in replacement for Chrome as it's compatible with the app store and runs on Chromium.
Add uBlock Origin and EFF Privacy Badger, they're in great ad-blocking shape.
The ads are opt-out, Brave Rewards is also opt-out and you can even turn off the button for it in the app tray. You can stop the "new tab" ads and also turn off the "cards" for their crypto stuff.
I heard allegations of including their own affiliate links in typed URLs. I don't care one iota. If it doesn't raise my price then that's between Brave and whatever company.
I don't care if they are destroying the internet ad industry. There are more important things to worry about like not letting my personal or professional life become the subject of nation state spy campaigns and Big Tech overlordship.
That said, in my quest to find a new home, Brave came in a close 2nd. It's the only non-niche browser other than FF that's open source. Open source transparency with a focus on privacy? Everyone should be signing up by default. And the only one of those two built on Chromium, which fighting ~70% of the web on that has become pretty ridiculous. Brave is the only place if you want the best of every world.
I am firmly in the Edge camp, because other things matter to me as well that I won't go on at length here, but Brave is the only other browser I'll be keeping tabs on.
Congrats to Eich and the squad!
all browsers are shady, ff paying ceo huge sums, chrome being evil, brave ceo political beliefs - so at least im getting something in return
i will never use edge, microsoft is and always has been an evil company - and no amount of virtue signalling will change that
Brave is also notorious for not listening to user feature requests. Vivaldi is more receptive.
I hope there is a [maximum Rust and minimum JS] browser. Our world of problems would get solved.
And I guess if you just download Brave you dont know from which source code was built.
Tor, Webtorrent support are nice. Not sure if Vivaldi does this.
edit: No I doubt it's about someone's emotional hissy fit post w/ 18.1k views and 31 likes.
Edit: No really...its the issue of trust to start with:
"On 6 June 2020, a Twitter user pointed out that Brave inserts affiliate referral codes when users type a URL of Binance into the address bar, which earns Brave money. Further research revealed that Brave redirects the URLs of other cryptocurrency exchange websites, too. In response to the backlash from the users, Brave's CEO apologized and called it a "mistake" and said "we're correcting..."
"Controversies" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_(web_browser)#Controvers...
You have pretty good guarantees.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18734999
There was also a while back when they added a new "opt-out" setting for their new tab page ads, defaulting it to accepting the ads without looking at past similar settings.
> Lol, that's not even remotely true.
https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/8/21283769/brave-browser-aff...
And regarding general privacy, their adblocker and so on:
https://raymondtec.com/2019/02/facebook-twitter-trackers-whi...
Saying that brave is not strongly affiliated with the crypto-hype is about as truthful as saying that google is not an ad-tech company.
About the Verge's piece, this is Eich's reponse: https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/1269317625915400192
Seems to me like an honest mistake that was quickly corrected, and Eich taking full responsability and showing face is worth a lot for me.
Regarding your last article, is just a shallow sensationalist piece, take a look at the "whitelisted" domains the mention, they are places where Facebook and Twitter store their content (photos, videos, etc...) if you block that you cripple those sites, so they decided to let them go through. They even acknowledge at the end that Firefox is doing a similar thing. It makes sense to me, honestly.
Sorry dude, your hand-waving arguments are futile against people who actually reason things out.
Oh I get it now. You don't understand how ad-block extensions work.
You don't give anything to anybody there.
PS. Brave is your Norton.
You can replace AV with browser and Norton with Brave in this statement.