Distributing Dating Apps in the Netherlands

Distributing Dating Apps in the Netherlands(developer.apple.com)

31 points by jannikarndt 4 years ago | 17 comments

pingiun 4 years ago |

See also Marco Arment's (creator of Overcast) commentary: https://twitter.com/marcoarment/status/1489595417117483010

> As a result, dating app developers using these entitlements will need to submit a separate app binary for iOS and/or iPadOS that may only be distributed on the Netherlands storefront.

> When using a third-party payment system within your app, your app must include an in-app modal sheet explaining that purchases are made through a source other than Apple. It must be displayed prior to: Any payment flow where the user would make a purchase; Any flow to enter payment information, even if it is not for a specific purchase. > Body: All purchases in the <App Name> app will be managed by the developer “<Developer Name>.” Your stored App Store payment method and related features, such as subscription management and refund requests, will not be available. Only purchases through the App Store are secured by Apple.

> Consistent with the ACM’s order, dating apps that are granted an entitlement to link out or use a third-party in-app payment provider will pay Apple a commission on transactions. Apple will charge a 27% commission on the price paid by the user, net of value-added taxes. This is a reduced rate that excludes value related to payment processing and related activities.

Nextgrid 4 years ago | |

27% is still absolutely insane.

jbverschoor 4 years ago | | |

Why? 27% is charged in many places. Digital and physical.

radley 4 years ago |

> Please note that Apple has audit rights pursuant to the entitlement’s terms and conditions.

Apple expects each company to open their books in perpetuity. Simply evil.

jbverschoor 4 years ago | |

Standard practice for any deal where there's a revenue share. Including all the penalties etc if you're off by 5%

blackdogie 4 years ago |

It's a small win in some respects. But Apple have been very too at only opening the door on payments that little bit. I would assume (and hope) that this will be the thin edge of the wedge and it will expand over time.

sebastien_b 4 years ago |

Instead of forcing Apple to allow alternative payment methods, Apple should have been forced to implement PWAs to full specs in Safari/WebKit. That would help take care of the AppStore monopoly.

keleftheriou 4 years ago |

Steve Troughton-Smith:

> Absolutely vile. This says everything about @tim_cook’s Apple and what it thinks of developers. I hope the company gets exactly what it deserves. Everybody on their executive team should be ashamed, and some of them should not be here when it’s all over. We all see you

> We’ve been told that if Apple ever asked its employees to betray their principles, they’d leave. In a similar vein, everybody, top to bottom, involved in planning, editing, implementation of everything in this document should leave Apple. You betrayed us

https://twitter.com/stroughtonsmith/status/14895589519056691...

sebastien_b 4 years ago | |

This is pretty much the way I feel about Apple's management, and the main reason why I wouldn't work at Apple[1]. They've simply gone off the rails.

And I say this as someone that has known/worked with people that were/are currently at Apple - so I know they have smart people working there, that must be thinking along similar veins I'm sure.

[1] My own personal opinion about Apple's management; doesn't mean I hold current non-management employees at Apple to those standards.

musicale 4 years ago | |

Sounds like someone just discovered the App Store (and eShop, etc.) business model for the first time.