Ask HN: Why must there be war? Why must there be war? |
Ask HN: Why must there be war? Why must there be war? |
But seriously, it seems that conflict emerges because there exists difference of opinion or conflicting desire. Violence seems to be escalation of those conflicting desires. Maybe the answer is “war exists when we fail to de-escalate conflict”
Of unlawful warfare, what may be said of the other side?
Life feeds upon life.
Power is savage.
War is a savage writ. The last recourse before subjugation. Where law fails and tenacity of wills prevail.
The question should be, what is lawful warfare?
Or at what point do we call a circumstance war? When bullets fly or when law of domain becomes contested among bodies of power?
Please stop spreading this bullshit.
Otherwise specify which exact resources do you mean and what is the proof of it’s scarcity?
Even the oil is being constantly produced by the earth.
Even if at incomparably slower pace than consumed, but who says people will need it at all in 50 years?
But the myth about scarcity of oil right now can be sold to naive and ignorant crowd to be manipulated.
If there is not infinite abundance of a thing, it will potentially be coveted and contention for it will be a motivation to fight for it.
On one of the levels without ww2 and the cold war afterwards — there would never be the Internet and modern computers as we know them [1]
On a philosophical level — as long as there is a dualism, there is a constant battle and interplay between the sides. So war in one form or another is as inevitable as peace.
In a sense the whole life itself is a constant battle between good and evil, chaos and order, entropy and information [2]
On the surface — scarced resources, justice, religions are just silly stories that people create for themselves to sugarcoat and rationalize those (or other) deeply embeded into the reality drivers.
[1] https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1732265119/
[2] https://www.amazon.com/Into-Cool-Energy-Flow-Thermodynamics/... and other similar books
Also Jordan Peterson “maps of meaning” and any serious book on roots of religious myths and stories.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUxkFCBPgx4
Which seems to find new relevance in the current moment.
But this is something you can’t use to justify a war, hence you’ll always see this silly argument in any war out there.
Read some Taleb’s books or watch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitter_Lake_(film) to understand my point.
Nobody can stop you from believing that, e.g., Ukraine should just capitulate to Russia and give up its freedom. But don't pretend for a second that such a belief holds the moral high ground.
Im not defending anyone by this position, nor Im okay with any military invasion
im just pointing out how easy it is to manipulate people who buy this ignorant binary scale. In both ways
And where exactly was I personally attacking you?
Not to mention that your arrogant comment is way out of the scope of the discussion (i never questioned the right of anyone to self-defense). And thus can be considered off topic and flame ;)