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I'm all for keyboard navigation, but I'm not at the point of boycotting if somebody doesn't support keyboard-only interaction.
From what I'm told by the "business guys", making your stuff accessiblt to the handicapped is a realy leg-up on some juicy contracts.
The landing page made a big deal out of supporting touch devices and being a HTML5 app framework; I wouldn't build anything on a framework whose own demos don't work on the most popular touch devices in the world.
When you click the arrow, keyboard goes up and hide the options. If you scroll or press back to move keyboard, options are gone
Is there any place where we can compare the various charting libraries?
Now look at the Kendo time picker. Design and usability are crucial to a successful product, so I'd say this looks like a smart investment, although I'd have to tinker with it more before buying.
http://trentrichardson.com/examples/timepicker/
It extends the standard jQuery UI datepicker but you can turn off the date picker part leaving the time picker.
For an ISV, $399 is next to nothing.
Can't we just use the GPLv3 version on any commercial (or personal) website? As long as I'm not redistributing commercial software with Kendo included, I am within the rights GPL grants me, right?
They may also just be falling back on the old corporate dogma that employees are not allowed to touch a GPL library with a ten-foot pole. Or the old corporate dogma that everything needs a support contract so that managers can CYA.
Can anyone comment point me to an successful MVP in this area or tell me about customers who buy this stuff?
My best guess is that it's some sort of web development tool that I can pay to get support for.
Kendo UI Web is a framework for modern HTML UI. Engineered with the latest HTML5, CSS3, and JavaScript standards, it delivers everything needed for client-side, jQuery-powered development in one integrated, compact package.
For instance, say I have a sushi website where people can order. The web site (html+css+javascript) is obviously public but the backend is private. (Database containing credit card + django code for instance).
If I use this library on my website (I.e. including the javascript on the client side), should I have to pay 400$?
http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/ is a good example of how to do this right
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affero_General_Public_License
CORRECTION: My comment is only true under the Affero GPL.
"The GNU Affero General Public License
The GNU Affero General Public License is based on the GNU GPL, but has an additional term to allow users who interact with the licensed software over a network to receive the source for that program. We recommend that people consider using the GNU AGPL for any software which will commonly be run over a network. The latest version is version 3."
99% of writing code is basic stuff that anyone out of school can do.
(Yes I made 99% up out of thin air but in my experience it's reasonably accurate)
In the world there are a lot of programmers that can do 99% of the work fine but who freeze at a problem. This isn't meant as a criticism. These people are good workers, good citizens, and so on. But in my experience they are the type of people who got a CS degree because they heard "it was the future" and are happy with a 9 to 5 job where they don't have to think about technology or code past 5:01 PM
When you supervise coding in a corporate environment you generally have 1 or 2 stars and then a bunch of other guys who fit the above description. You don't want your stars constantly being distracted by the others when they hit a problem so you seek out tools with support contracts. Then when someone hits a problem they file a support request and move on to something else until they get a response.
When support solves the problem those guys go back to coding the 99% of the stuff that they can do and everyone's happy for a fraction of the price.
$399 a year is cheap when it allows you to hire programmers who are competent but not stars (and who are accordingly cheaper)
Sorry I don't have an MVP to point to.
No MVPs to offer, but Sencha and Highcharts are making a living licensing their Javascript libraries. If you're interested in this market, I'd recommend libraries for building complex infographics. Something beyond the standard business charts you see everywhere.
http://www.sencha.com/products/extjs/
Having quality support available is probably alone worth several times the price.
I didn't like that one because dragging a slider for the time seemed like a lot of work.
I'd rather click, so I ended up with this one that is based on jquery ui as well: http://fgelinas.com/code/timepicker/
I'm not certain whether including a GPL library with your JS code requires you to license your JS as well under the GPL, but if it does then simply choosing not to minify won't be enough protection.