iPhone Ownership Among U.S. Teens Hits 87%(macrumors.com) |
iPhone Ownership Among U.S. Teens Hits 87%(macrumors.com) |
Android phones just aren't good enough to be worth the switch, especially when they're the same price. I've never paid more than $300 for an iPhone.
There's no actual draw to Android, your choices on the market today are iPhones and worse off brand iPhones desperately trying to be iPhones. It used to be a meme that at every WWCD Apple would announce features that Android had for years and we'd all have a laugh but now it's flipped the other way which is honestly embarrassing for Google who burnt through so much of their advantage.
I have managed to push most of the people I know to not use SMS or iMessage and use Signal - we can all have a high quality chat and media sharing experience with a comparable (or superior) security model on whatever device you have. iOS, Android, Mac, Windows, Linux, etc.
This entire comment is headboggling, amazing how one can be so closeminded that they only see value in Apple.
Where, if I may ask, do you get such a good deal?
I've only ever heard of two on this list. Interesting.
Also to note there's shockingly low diversity in footwear and phone choices. Why is the teen market such a winner take all environment?
https://www.euronews.com/green/2022/04/05/welcome-to-the-dar...
https://www.marketplace.org/2022/05/06/business-shein-fast-f...
Lulu and Nike seem very status-oriented and I believe they don’t list on Amazon directly so makes sense there.
H&M and Zara cannot compete. They order three months ahead, have six months of stock sitting on slow sea freight or in stores, and discard a massive amount of clothing from their stores at the end of season.
They mainly buy it as iphone is considered 'Posh', a sign of your class.
There is no way for them to use imessage as everyone uses Whatsapp, no way to use facetime as everyone uses Whatsapp Call and for these buyers no way to use apple premium apps as they cost large amount of money while google products are free.
A funny thing happened was when PUBG was banned here by government, it was removed by apple app store and google play store. But android users were still able to play PUBG by downloading and installing APK from web while apple users were not able to do it as according to apple 'Only hackers use Sideloading'. So, it was funny to watch at time android users gloating over iphone users.
(I would also seriously consider a linux phone)
The only real downside to someone that isn’t a power user is price, and even power users can tweak iOS enough for nearly any use case. An example is that you can currently sideload a virtual machine app from altstore that can literally run Linux with full USBC (or lightning to USB) pass through.
I now help all my friends buy cheap iphones for about $150/phone. They are either openbox or refurbished by apple, still under apple warranty. Currently iphone 11 64gb is that sweet spot.
Cpu is still faster than most modern androids. Nvme ssd doesn't wear out as cheap emmc on androids. Phone receives way better software tuning than any android because apple iterates slower.
And best part: phone can be serviced on the cheap in almost any mall in the world. Everyone got spare screens, batteries,cases sell in dollar store.
I get Latest ios releases. I was using pixels before and when they broke, esp during travel, it was a very uneconomical proposition.
Only thing I miss is termux and gcam.
Swapping parts like that on an iPhone doesn't work (anymore): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2WhU77ihw8
Under these conditions, why would you ever buy an Android?
The price isn't really such a problem if you don't indocrtinate yourself into buying a new one each year.
But this shouldn't be applicaple to teens though, probably?
0. https://www.jchs.harvard.edu/blog/are-millennials-leaving-ci...
Apple forced Google to screw up it's messaging strategy for all these years?
>Google has been unable to field a stable, competitive messaging platform for years and has thoroughly lost the messaging war to products with a long-term strategy. At least some divisions inside the company are waking up to how damaging this is to Google as a company, and now Google's latest strategy is to... beg its competition for mercy?
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/08/new-google-site-begs...
The article I linked to points out that RCS, as used by Google today, is a proprietary closed source fork of RCS that Google has refused to create a public API for.
>Google's version of RCS—the one promoted on the website with Google-exclusive features like optional encryption—is definitely proprietary, by the way.
If this is supposed to be a standard, there's no way for a third-party to use Google's RCS APIs right now. Some messaging apps, like Beeper, have asked Google about integrating RCS and were told there's no public RCS API and no plans to build one.
If you want to implement RCS, you'll need to run the messages through some kind of service, and who provides that server? It will probably be Google.
So the pitch for Apple to adopt RCS isn't just this public-good nonsense about making texts with Android users better; it's also about running Apple's messages through Google servers. Google profits in both server fees and data acquisition.
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/08/new-google-site-begs...
> the #1 most difficult [reason] to leave the Apple universe app is iMessage. . . iMessage amounts to serious lock-in,” Schiller commented that “moving iMessage to Android will hurt us more than help us, this email illustrates why.”
They know it's lock-in, and won't be fixing it any time soon.
Granted, moving to Whatsapp would resolve this but then you're using a Meta product.
Better than what, budget phones? Android phones worth half its price have comparable features nowadays. Apple has failed miserably in gaining customers from markets where its hegemony wasn't already established, including the world's largest smartphone markets (China & India). American localisation is absolutely the largest thing going for them.
Nicer screen: with that huge camera cutout it's just ugly.
More solid feel: if you tap the middle of the screen it feels hallow, like a cardboard box.
Better software integration: to make my apple tv to be my home hub or however it is called, I had to look up the answer. I only found the question from 12 years ago with no answer (there is no community in apple universe, just individual customers). I finally gave the answer to that question myself after a week of poking. Horrible sw integration.
Other stuff: you can't move icons where you want (what a joke!), you can't have a link to a picture on home screen, you can't... you can't... you can't... but hey look at that battery not getting drained by nothing!
I agree though, right now it really isn’t a defensible argument from Google.
Even ancient no-longer-updated dumb phones support SMS.
Is this the argument you guys are seriously making?
The solution for a competitor having a better product than you is to pick a single strategy and keep iterating on whatever it is you build, instead of abandoning one product after another.
That’s news to me, interesting.
So is this fork fully incompatible with the spec, or it just adds some features beyond that spec? I.e. if Apple implements the open spec can they communicate with Google systems using the base spec features?
If Google built and run their own non-interoperable fork as a competing messaging system then I strongly agree that they don’t have a leg to stand on.
I’m a bit less convinced with the whole “Google wants your data” angle. The whole reason they used RCS in the first place is because carriers want to run their own messaging infra, and I believe the carriers still do even if they are using Google’s spec (eg see https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/30/22556686/att-android-phon..., though I am not certain on this point). In the past Google tried to get carriers to buy in to their own proprietary service and failed.
It looks to me more that AT&T, Verizon (a bit) and T-Mobile are all running Google’s version of the RCS spec on their own networks and servers, so even if it isn’t open (it should be), it is still a de facto industry standard. So I think they still have a case here that Apple should fall back to this spec instead of SMS.