Telegram – The Kremlin Has Entered the Chat

Telegram – The Kremlin Has Entered the Chat(wired.com)

3 points by geiser 3 years ago | 3 comments

2Gkashmiri 3 years ago |

russiaphobia at its best.

i am not a telegram user (was one years ago but have deleted the account back in 2018 i think,)

telegram does NOT advertise E2EE by default. it does not say it doesn't honor governmental requests for users data. case in point, https://techcrunch.com/2022/09/01/indian-court-orders-telegr...

indian high court orders telegram to disclose copyright violators details in order for the rights holder to prosecute them so its not like telegram has refused to accept their demand.

that said, https://nypost.com/2022/08/09/facebook-gave-teens-private-me...

recently facebook gave away a teen's abortion details to the police which got her in soup.

How is what is facebook doing fine by americans, because fb/meta is american and so whatever they do is automatically fine but god forbid someone else does the same thing.

someone will say "but law is like that, facebook has to share those details". well that applies to telegram also in russia so how is that different?

why do you have double standards for everything non-american and moreso if that happens to be india/iran/china/russia or any country that is currently on the american naughty list?

geiser 3 years ago | |

I don't use any Meta service for the same reason. But I was using Telegram because of a perceived better treatment of chat history and compatibility with people around me using it. But I didn't know the last actions from Pavel Durov... which seem totally in line with Meta's wrong-behavior.

anonymoose33282 3 years ago |

I wish the author would just stick to hard facts instead of going on so many conspiratorial tangents:

"Since Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, Telegram and the Kremlin have appeared even more in sync... Telegram [is] a vital source of information for Russians, with Meduza and other outlets sharing reports via public channels on the platform. But pro-Kremlin disinformation far outpaces journalism."

I don’t see how the appearance of disinformation makes someting ‘in sync’. By that logic, Facebook, Reddit, YouTube, TikTok, Twitter, etc. are all "in bed” with the Kremlin. And if we’re measuring a platform on its Journalism-to-Propaganda ratio, I think the internet as a whole would fail to pass.