Evidence that the Neanderthals were the first seafarers?(thearchaeologist.org) |
Evidence that the Neanderthals were the first seafarers?(thearchaeologist.org) |
[0] https://doi.org/10.1016/j.quaint.2022.09.001
[1] https://www.peakfinder.org/?lat=37.98035&lng=24.52317&ele=25...
[2] https://www.peakfinder.org/?lat=37.53781&lng=26.01118&ele=87...
Their only explanation that they are hypothesizing is that humans traveled there across water. Do you have a better idea? They're not saying they found boats, they're saying there is clear evidence of human travel.
Focus on the evidence there is, not evidence you would like to see. What do you hypothesize that fits the evidence?
100,000ya ago is not "long before modern humans existed." Modern humans are Homo sapiens, and the oldest known Homo sapiens remains (to date, that we know of) are dated to 300,000 years ago, which is now apparently 200,000 years before "long before" Homo sapiens existed. I guess the good news is we invent the time machine before too long.
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Why make the leap to assume they invented sails, given the lack of physical evidence? I mean, it seems reasonable to think they could have rowed or even floated 40km long before they developed sails, and that they would develop those techniques on the way to doing that.
The evidence is merely that there are early tools on islands.
Modern humans and Neanderthals (and Denisovians) coexist for about 100-150k years before modern humans basically killed them all after interbreeding.
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neanderthal_extinction for some of the other theories.
Is this an update to how this stuff is understood? I vaguely think the extra sapiens was added on to draw a distinction between “behaviorally modern” humans or something like that. But that always seemed more like a cultural thing anyway.
This debate was mostly ended in favor of the separate species perspective by the early 2000s, but not everyone was reconciled and archaeogenetics forced us to rewrite the human taxonomy anyway. People will understand what you mean if you continue using H. sapiens sapiens, it's when you use "H. sapiens" to include Neanderthals and Denisovans that people will be confused. Sometimes that terminology is also also used it to exclude transitional subspecies like idaltu, which I think is why wiki uses it.
This may be because Homo sapiens sapiens is the Homo sapiens type species, but I'm not sure.
The article isn't particularly well written but that's probably what they're referring to.
That the tools were moved to Crete way later than when they were made. Obviously, there are no proof of that either. I am not saying it is impossible Neaderthals got there by boat-ish means. But recycling seems like a possibility not moving back seatravel too far into the past.
That isn't evidence that we killed the Neanderthals for food. Rather than, say, having added some ecosystem stress through competition that left them less able to handle a major volcano 40,000 years ago.