MDN Blog

raybb 3 years ago |

Perhaps the intro blog post should be the one linked: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/blog/welcome-to-the-MDN-...

Interesting that they'll have sponsored posts.

Interesting that you think it's interesting. If there ever was a place for it, this would be it. I would personally prefer them doing it on their blog than being interrupted in the docs. At least I know what I am getting with the blog.

Where would your preference be for their monetization strategy?

cjpearson 3 years ago | | |

Maybe it can be done well, but the Stack Overflow experience wasn't great. It's just filled with junk paid promotion articles and I avoid it completely now. Maybe the blog is useful for marketing their products, but IMO it's definitely damaged their brand value.

Donations is a bit of a cop-out answer I know, but it can work for reference works. I wouldn't want Wikipedia to fund itself with sponsored articles.

sixo 3 years ago | | |

If the promotions ruined the channel the price was too low.

itsuka 3 years ago | | |

I wish they'd update their docs with better examples before creating content in other areas, such as tutorials and blogs.

As an example, when comparing these two pages:

- Blog: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/blog/css-color-module-le...

- Reference: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/color

It is apparent that the reference page lacks any mention of features from level 4 such as oklch, display-p3, and color function. Also, a search for "display-p3" in the search bar returns no result on that page.

chrismorgan 3 years ago | | |

You’re looking at the reference page for the ‘color’ property, but that’s the wrong thing: all this stuff belongs on the page for the <color> data type; and that’s where it’s found: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/color_value. Frankly, I’d prefer the color property page (and background-color, and border-color, and …) to deliberately not have so many diverse examples, and link much more prominently to the <color> page.

itsuka 3 years ago | | |

You're right. I am not as familiar with MDN's organization and CSS as you are (I only recently discovered that CSS is a typed language). However, I find it confusing that some pages have their own page for values, while others don't. As a reference page, I expect the valid syntax for all values to be provided. But I agree that specific examples can be linked to other resources.

chrismorgan 3 years ago | | |

Things like colours and units get used in many properties (color, background-color, border-color, box-shadow—in which <color> is only a part of the syntax—and many more; width, length, font-size, font—a shorthand in which <length> is only a part—and many more), and if they get expanded in one place, then all properties that use them take the new definition—hence <color>, <length>, &c. as the only sensible way to structure things (in spec, reference and mental model). By contrast, the values of properties like ‘display’ aren’t used anywhere else.

It sounds like a large part of the problem is helping to build the right mental model. If you understand that colours and lengths are used in many places, it will make sense that they will be documented separately from the properties, and that the properties’ references will just refer to them.

slater 3 years ago | | |

Listen here, you. I want my Mozilla monetizations to be IN MY FACE, in-browser advertising overlays for their latest branded non-Firefox offering, while I'm trying to browse on an unrelated website.

(/s)

muli_d 3 years ago |

I find it amusing that even when you're on the MDN Blog URL (https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/blog/), it still shows you a banner on the top that says "Discover the latest web development insights on our new MDN Blog", which links to the exact same page. :)

tosbourn 3 years ago |

I'm excited to see the articles they produce.

I was a bit disapointed to see their RSS feed doesn't let you read the posts in your reader of choice.

Just some generic "click here to read more" descriptions and massive images.

I get that they're wanting to to sponsored stuff and for that they need stats and what have you, but I expected a bit better.

the-printer 3 years ago |

MDN has the advantage of being more accessible (!mdn bang on DuckDuckGo, Dash docsets) but I prefer O'Reilly's Pocket References, although they may be a tad out of date.

kellengreen 3 years ago |

Hopefully this can help fill the void left by CSS-Tricks.