Anybody ever interviewed at SpaceX before? I feel 100% qualified to do the job I'm interviewing for this week, but I'm mostly just looking for any tips on how to study for a non-coding interview w/ them. Any horror stories? I've checked Glassdoor (and googling) and coming up with mostly small odds/ends here and there. Any tips appreciated! |
If you're down for hard grueling work but doing so with a bunch of brilliant people and care deeply about the mission it can be an incredible opportunity and open many doors. If you're wanting to be chill and have "balance" it isn't a place for that. They have some of the best tech on earth and are among the most innovative companies in history. They work for it though. My buddy rolled out after getting married and having a kid. He has no regrets.
Not quite.
https://twitter.com/atomicthumbs/status/1032939617404645376?...
There are definitely some smart people, and things move fast, but there are 2 sides to the company I had friends that worked for Space X and Tesla, and I have worked for a UAV companies, and its the same story over and over again. My CEO straight up told us "your reward for working hard is that you get to continue working".
Within the company, there exists a clique of upper level managers/engineers and some lower level engineers, where the talent lies. If you are part of this clique, you love it, as you get a good amount of input on how your work goes, what areas you wan to take on, and it feels like you are doing cool shit with friends where you can easily work 60 hour weeks because you are having fun. And if you do quit, you always have connections and stay in touch and are able to find work .
If you are not part of this clique, you work on stuff you are told, have to put in extra hours to get shit to work because of barriers in the way, you have no say in any direction, and you eventually get burnt out.
The thing is, to join that clique, you have to be hired based on reworking through someone in the clique who can vouch for you, or spend a shitload of time in a company suffering through the burn out to get into an established position when other clique members quit (and hope that they don't hire someone external to fill the role rather than giving it to you).
i refused to do coding interviews i have 20+ years of experience i offered to share my code or work on a little project offered contracting
she said but we send people into space here
a job is a job i can’t pay my lanlord with space dust
https://www.lioness.co/post/at-spacex-we-re-told-we-can-chan...
If you are a female don't bother to work there,otherwise they will sexually harass you.
If you are old,they will take away the work given to you because you will die.
All big companies do(did?) this - putting low salary and saying but "this is Facebook!" (real story), preying on young gullible people who think Facebook, Google or any big fish is anything worthy to be a part of.
The FAANG companies are also different in that they already generate massive revenues, so can't credibly claim they can't afford to pay good salaries.
> she said but we send people into space here
This feeling is everywhere now. "But we send people on the roads here". "But we send people on the bottom of the ocean here". We are Agile and only see the quality manager when we jave an escalation meeting with the customer.
you also have severe space and time restrictions, more than in a car or surgical robot.
no agile for sure. there's not much room for agility or changing requirements in space.
https://www.levels.fyi/companies/spacex/salaries/software-en...
so you are looking at 14k per month in payments
I’ve heard from plenty of experienced people how some of these companies, especially googlee - milk you for all you’ve got while pretending to be caring and offering you competitive base pay.
I mean you can do whatever you want - but for most of history people have been working far more than that.
60hrs a week is not bad, especially if the work is interesting and you get to work with talented people. It's not like you would have had to work there for the rest of your life.
Just a couple years there would have meant never needing to work ever again. Sounds healthy to me!
2. I don’t do good work when I’m tired.
3. I have some health issues that make managing 40 hours difficult sometimes, so I’m not “posturing.”
Also, I’m pretty sure stock options didn’t vest until like four years or something. IIRC, Musk’s companies were well known for chewing up young engineers and spitting them out. Their modus operandi seemed to be taking advantage of young idealistic graduates who would work themselves to death for some “cause” (and not enough compensation).
Just wanted to push back a little against your initial snark :)
Are you sure? can you support the "most" part?
I wouldn't do that now, but at the time it was like getting paid to attend a university that was waaaay more interesting than my actual university. The company was still very bohemian and you had access to the people that wrote the book on digital and practical effects.
There can be huge value, especially for junior engineers in having certain companies on your resume. ILM opened up every single door of every VFX or animation house. I'm sure spaceX would have similar benefits.
You just need to make sure the benefit is worth your time.
because people are ok with being underpaid in return for being able to say they work on space shuttles
we will all be fucked until we all learn to negotiate
Plus you can expand the thiefdom management cake.. And that is real growth..