> I still am baffled by the degree of refusal to pay. I share the instinct to avoid subscriptions. This still seems like a clear case where heavy users should make an exception.

If there was a nice little local square you liked to go to, to hang out and chat with your friends, and then some jerk, some world-class jerk, bought the square, and made all sorts of heavy-handed unnecessary changes that made it a shitty place to be, so you could barely have a conversation with your friends any more, and then he asked you to pay eight dollars a month to stay for more than half an hour, would you pay? Would you hand even a single red cent over to this guy?!

> the humiliation of considering paying for Twitter to scroll my addiction is giving me a smidge of empathy for the bros who pay for sex

I think this is a really important point for Twitter's business.

Many users know, subconsciously or consciously, that they use Twitter too much or in an unhealthy way. Explicity paying for it would make the problem feel real.

I personally went through this conundrum with Discord, and had to delete the apps.

And I think Elon is oblivious to this issue because he is a oblivious Twitter addict.

Think I finally left it this weekend. First time in years I haven’t been on Twitter in a day or two. I didn’t really hit the rate limit much but the discourse is now all about this and getting less and less fun, plus having all the worst people alive at the top of replies is such a strange choice. Honestly thought I’d be the last person to leave but it’s getting easier.

> Elon refused to pay the cloud bill

I thought the bill was paid. The rate limits came later.

https://www.reuters.com/technology/twitter-resumes-paying-go...

Oh, I see. For a moment, I thought the latest thing was that it had decided to become a Twitch competitor. You get to stream 6 minutes of games a day!

Twitter did pay its bills, it has nothing with the stupid rate limits.

I'm on Twitter less because too much of twitter is just talking about Twitter now, and that's what I signed up for.

Not sure why so many different articles attributing the rate limiting to anything other than the impact of large web scraping going on, which was already reported as the cause.

Twitter isn't the only site thats being used to for training data, lots of companies and coders are trying to gather the data now. Myself, I already grabbed the torrents of reddit/twitter data for training, much easier that way.