Starfield’s missing Nvidia DLSS support has been added by a free mod(arstechnica.com) |
Starfield’s missing Nvidia DLSS support has been added by a free mod(arstechnica.com) |
as GN said when they broke the story, the sensible PR move for AMD here is to quickly change the contracts and then go "there's nothing stopping devs!" and hope that nobody realizes the ink is still wet on the contracts.
Since they announced that, jedi survivor has suddenly announced DLSS support in an upcoming patch too. Wow, what a coincidence.
Again, this is a case of AMD already getting a ton of benefit of the doubt that wouldn't be awarded to any other megacorp here. If the tables were turned here, I doubt we would be equivocating about whether NVIDIA GPP really might have some benign goals and intentions, people would call a spade a spade and be done with it. Intel didn't get any benefit of the doubt on chipsets, people made a reasonable assertion they were doing it to sell more chipsets and that was the end of the dicussion for most people. But with AMD you have to exhaustively rule out any alternative possibilities and engage in lengthy discourse to disprove alternative "AMD is my friend" theories. Maybe they couldn't do X370 and X470 chipset support because, umm....
The chart looks pretty damning - really only sony seemed to get out of the provision. And now all of a sudden they come out with a statement after weeks and weeks of dramatic radio-silence (which of course NVIDIA did not do) that they "don't limit devs" (which wasn't the question) and suddenly studios are announcing they put it into games. Yeah, sounds like they dropped a new contract and took the terms out, and hope they can shout down anyone pointing out the implicit "anymore" in their statement.
> For anyone hoping for a more official (and less morally fraught) way to add DLSS support to Starfield, AMD hasn't completely ruled it out. In a recent interview with The Verge, AMD Gaming CEO Frank Azor said that "if they [Bethesda] want to do DLSS, they have AMD’s full support... If [our partners] ask us for DLSS support, we always tell them yes." No public word yet from Bethesda on whether that "if" will become a "when" any time soon.
they caused a stir with clickbait-tubers and they just sat back and laughed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPSB_BKd9Dg&t=650s _ RX 7800 / 7700 XT Benchmark Leak: AMD doesn't need Starfield to Win _ Sep 2, 2023
When I look at the texture resolution budget the hard surface art team got vs. whoever is in charge of the dead eyed bethesda faces, I wonder if they were bullied. The clothes look phenomenal full of all sorts of nice greebling, buckles, varying specularity, then your eyes move up a bit to see a plastic person with painted on eyes that blink about 35% less than they should.
...And I briefly launched Starfield just because it came with my CPU, and to be blunt, it looks hilariously dated, and runs like a pig. Cyberpunk 2077 looks better on my laptop 2060 than Starfield does on my desktop 3090, at about the same framerate on a 4K TV. The resemblance to Oblivion is uncanny.
Don't get me wrong, I love the old BGS games and don't really care about their dated visuals, I'm just saying Starfield is a horrible test for upscaling technology.
What I AM sensitive to however, is temporal instability - it just draws my attention and hurts immersion. Here DLSS makes a huge difference, as shown here[0].
Therefore it is sad that Bethesda chose[1] to deliver worse than possible image quality for 80%+ of their PC customers[2].
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[0] https://youtu.be/ciOFwUBTs5s?feature=shared&t=336
[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37452149
[2] https://archive.ph/mqPLK, nvidia has 75% market share here, but you have to look at the higher end parts only and exclude Intel as Starfield does not run at all on their GPUs[3]
[3] https://in.ign.com/starfield/193351/news/starfield-intel-fin...
FSR2 has a bunch more fizzle in high frequency detail (specular and foliage), more severe disocclusion artifacts causing streaking and ghosting behind moving objects and it runs worse than DLSS since it eats into the raster budget instead of using discreet hardware like Nvidia's tensor cores.
I know this discussion is about a game, but lets not turn HN into a toxic gamer forum where we try to belittle each other and drop tech terms to gain cred.
"Oh, you have tensor cores? I had no idea."
"One does not like to brag."
Apologies if you felt belittled. The "grandma doesn't notice motion smoothing" metaphor was used because of it being a shared experienced among the technologically savvy, though I get how it could be interpreted as insulting. Nothing wrong with being a grandma, they don't know any better.
Lots of people online seem to believe both are "free", so the only reason why you wouldn't implement one is some back room deal. But in my experience, just getting everyone into the same room to sign off on things like that is hard.
One "advantage" to this mod is they can completely ignore the license I guess.
[0] https://github.com/NVIDIA/DLSS/blob/main/LICENSE.txt
[1] https://github.com/GPUOpen-Effects/FidelityFX-FSR/blob/maste...
The fact that they have to ask them if it's okay...
