1: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/parents-in-a-remo...
The amount of vocabulary that is learned through the experience and play of song is astounding. Similar to a song tied to a memory. Exposure to diverse cuisine and music before birth both seems to be helpful too to the degree possible.
The number of words I have seen the little ones in my life absorb and use before age 1.5 to 3 leaves you a little speechless.
So many words, syllables, full sentences, and a way to reduce some of the little frustrations of not being able to express yourself.
So many words seem to musically originating in a few ways in hind sight:
First is reading, talking and singing anything you can as much as one can. Learning the sound of the voices around them is super valuable if present from the start.
Next is ending up being children of the digital co-parent and teacher Miss Rachel. Her content on YouTube was irreplaceable during the pandemic, and the bonus of speaking in song was one of the biggest gifts to learn.
Last, but not least is a Reggio Emilia child development / care program. If a parent has a chance to check out a Reggio Emilia centric child care program in regards to this topic of learning expression, more than not it’s an invitation to explore and play with lots of music and vocabulary. What’s neat is no place can be Reggio Emilia certified because it’s a town in Italy, so the methods can be freely taught, learned and used at home too.
What stands out is all of the children in Reggio Emilia programs are not the same, they are very ok with structure but just as adaptable with going with the flow of the fire alarm goes off. The rigour in fuelling music, dance, craft, curiosity, imagination, exploration, interaction and expression.
There will be some parents who find this approach a fit for them, (it’s a little different than Montessori which can be tough for some children to switch into a regular world program) as it focuses on helping each child bring out their uniqueness at their own pace.
The best thing is was that I got to know him very soon, while my peers and their daughters/sons still were kind of communicating.
Singing made fuck all difference in that case (FWIW, the grunter is now totally fine as an older kid). Both were walking at 10 months so it was not like one was just "slow" at their milestones
As they say, every baby is different.
That said, I believe it's nature and nurture in the end.
Our oldest was talking in full sentences at 1 year. It was astounding. Now, granted, it was stuff like, "I'm dunna det da fwad" but he was communicating in full thoughts at about the time he walked.
People always asked what system we used for teaching him. Our answer was always, "it's boring at our house so we talk a lot."
My career as a singer-to-babies was heavy on the Broadway tunes. "On the Street Where You Live" was big.
And then Elmo happened and then Barney happened, and things have been on kind of a downhill slide into brightly colored, C-major MIDI music Cocomelon happyland.
Classics that sound great sung by Raffi, Ella Jenkins and even Caspar Babypants are some sort of ear mush when done by Cocomelon, Kidz Bop et al.
Where many people go wrong is that they assume little kids are stupid instead of understanding that they lack context.
Kids are literally just the definition of inexperienced.
> he communicates by making a rapid clicking noise with his tongue
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/jul/11/fiji.jennyfors...
I feel this must explain something about the Pingu stop-motion animations, which feature a made-up babble-language that some people think is real-but-foreign.
* Elmo’s Song
* Feist’s Sesame Street version of 1-2-3-4
"I love the flowers I love the daffodils.
"I love the fire side when all the lights are low.
"Boom dee Yada boom dee Yada boom."
I wonder what's the effect of playing baby songs and exposing the baby to dumbed down versions of everything.
Classical music is frequently cited as beneficial to learning and it has no lyrics. Nobody has ever suggested rap music is intellectually stimulating in any context, and they use a lot of words.
Even on rats in mazes, blasting them with Metallica seems to result in worse performance than Mozart. Myself, I can't work while listening to rap, rock or metal. Techno or classical only. Inducing a state of aggression/heightened arousal never leads to cogent thought (I can't work to Lords of Acid either!). There's a reason generals lead from afar.
I suspect music exposure may be related to autism in children, as a product of the spectrum of stimulation they're exposed to-- too much overall (urban life), too much of one type (war, domestic violence), or too little of any ("frigid mother"). The classical arts (a form of expression) are another thing that dropped off as diagnoses rose. We do not value art like we used to. Who owns a piano anymore?
Although IDK about the quality of this study
"Even prior to producing their first words, infants are developing a sophisticated speech processing system, with robust word recognition present by 4–6 months of age. These emergent linguistic skills, observed with behavioural investigations, are likely to rely on increasingly sophisticated neural underpinnings. The infant brain is known to robustly track the speech envelope, however previous cortical tracking studies were unable to demonstrate the presence of phonetic feature encoding. Here we utilise temporal response functions computed from electrophysiological responses to nursery rhymes to investigate the cortical encoding of phonetic features in a longitudinal cohort of infants when aged 4, 7 and 11 months, as well as adults. The analyses reveal an increasingly detailed and acoustically invariant phonetic encoding emerging over the first year of life, providing neurophysiological evidence that the pre-verbal human cortex learns phonetic categories. By contrast, we found no credible evidence for age-related increases in cortical tracking of the acoustic spectrogram."
Which, you know, sure, why not. Nursery rhymes are, I'm sure, great. But the idea that it is "vital" seems preposterous, as I'm sure many infants do not have anyone singing to them, and they still learn to speak.
Again, I'm sure singing to your baby is good stuff, but the headline seems like a stretch.
> Ironically, you also added the word “deliberately” to make your comment more appealing without any evidence
Yes.
Fun.
A short comment is not the place for evidence.
I could criticise it for hyperbole but actually the thing I do not like is mor e gratuitous unesecsary adjectives....
Given a startling crisp headline for a mild wishy washy article it is reasonable to assume deliberation.
But is it a lie? Or measly an exaggeration?
I care a lot, it's good
There is an endless stream of these headlines that misrepresent the scientific claims in a way that just happens to seem designed to make the article more appealing. I'm sure it's all pure coincidence.
> "you added the word “deliberately”
into
> Ironically, you also added the word “deliberately” to make your comment more appealing without any evidence
with no evidence, theory of mind, nor sense of irony apparent.
Compare with Pokémon Kids TV, which sounds really cheerful, and you can hear the singer is really enjoying themselves. Also mostly the same classic children songs, but so much more enjoyable to listen to.
The generic midi versus funny experimental instrumentation play a part too.
The sing-song thing is cultural but powerful. It’s hard (for me) to not default to it with my one year old.
Edit: LOL I clearly commented before reading the article.
My actual question is … how to develop good humor and playfulness in kids? Some people grow up with somewhat stunted senses of humor it seems. Is there something one can do? Research?
You’re allowed to be obnoxiously ignorant, but don’t fool yourself into thinking you speak for anyone but yourself.
You need less DMX and more Wu-Tang [1]
Or Killah Priest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu1ObsgF6ts
Or Run the Jewels (El-P and Killer Mike): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sff7Kc77QAY
Of course Aesop Rock: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNrB6--KBqs
Graydon Square: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qJop-w0YAY
Joyner Lucas: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WrMzFlLk7Q
MF Doom: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_QQamQt5x4
Deltron 3030: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34k3GwQtbbs
Immortal Technique: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLBNMhzn8VI
And he was there. Of course.
What an asinine comment dismissing an entire culture that was from jstarfish.
Don’t forget Common and also Arrested development / Speech too.
When braggadocio to go from mostly jokey to gross
Corrode a homie 'til his probity is notably ghost
That made me chuckle.
But it's possible for siblings not to share any genetic material right?
A brother and a sister would obviously get different genes from their father and presumably there would be a 50/50 chance of them getting different genes from their mother.
There's four unique prototypes of children any two people can produce together.
Kinda but the mother always provides the mitochondria.
Most people talk to their babies at least sometimes, but observing families there are huge differences between how much people talk to their babies, how they talk to them, what subjects they talk about, how many different languages they use, etc.
The younger of two had speech problems.
Then they returned home and the neighbour kids made both of them to talk in a matter of weeks and months.
But yes, that's a good distinction I should have made!
gp said four unique prototypes