Denied OBS PR regarding Kick support lights up(github.com) |
Denied OBS PR regarding Kick support lights up(github.com) |
>There's nothing wrong with it. Twitch promotes sexual content/channels to children and this project is perfectly okay with that because it reinforces to young boys that women are worth nothing more than what they charge for their OF subscription and to young girls that they can make money really easily by using this lovely free software. If that was actually considered detestable or vile then the project would obviously remove Twitch from the services.json file. This project empowers women to take their shirts off and stream on Twitch with only a few clicks!
Pretty funny.
It first became notable when twitch banned certain gambling content, which kick allows. This gave it an initial reputation of being a site that allows content that Twitch does not.
the Wikipedia article mentions the site being founded with "a focus on looser moderation". When a site becomes known for lax moderation policies, it has a tendency to attract people whose content violates the rules of other platforms. While this might sometimes be good, a lot of the time it attracts people who want to promote bigotry or other hate.
As expected in the early days, the site did attract streamers that most competing services did not want to have. This has earned the site a bit of a stigma. There was at least one incident that would have resulted in the streamer getting suspended on literally any other game streaming service, and nothing happened over on Kick, and we know they knew about it, as their CEO was in the chat during the stream.
The site has tightened up its moderation a bit more vs the earlier days, but it has still yet to fully shake the stigma.
Allowing e-whores to grow on the platform was a mistake.
OBS really painted themselves in a corner by adding sketchy camgirl sites but refusing to add a game streaming site.
"Are you sure this doesn't have anything to do with OBS being sponsored by YouTube and Twitch?"
I would like to know what influence these entities wield on OBS.
A project has every right to decide how it's ran or how it works - it must. The project maintainers can very well just say "we don't like this service because it starts with a K", or because there's a conflict with their project sponsors. One of the 'rewards' for maintaining a project (especially on the size of OBS) is to make opinionated decisions like this.
I presume OBS supports streaming to generic RTMP endpoints, so it can still be used to stream to whatever service they want. Or, people (or even the company themselves!) are welcome to fork the project and support whatever projects they want.
I’d never heard of Kick … and several actually explicit adult sites are in the service.json file…
This feels like it might be a bit of an overreaction… but I dunno. I’m not about to expose myself to any site like Twitxh/Kick/YouTube right before bed…. It’s not good for my sleep quality… so I’m not really in a position to judge anything about Kick.
Really, really interesting to see this stance from OBS and very difficult to not view it cynically, especially considering the very lacklustre reasoning. Is OBS saying that they're denying Kick because they don't want to associate themselves with them, implicitly saying that they're happy to be associated with every other site on that list? Seems like a very silly stance to take.
[0] - It's not that long ago that Grant Amato stole hundreds of thousands from his family to send to a camgirl on MyFreeCams, before eventually murdering his parents and brother due to their objections to his parasocial relationship with the camgirl
I don't like that the first amendment is no longer enough because power to abridge speech in the "public square" is now given to corporations who bend to the public opinion of a small mob (mostly bored suburbanite youth) and advertisers. It's the Internet, can I make a dirty joke and say "fuck"? Apparently not. People are considerably more repressed than they were a couple of decades ago and they're cheering for it?
If content is so bad that it ought to be illegal, make it so and have the punishment go through actual law enforcement.
Then again a platform making money from its content producers does have some responsibility to be selective.
That doesn't at all extend to OBS Studio though.
Kick is a platform. It isn't kiwifarms, it isn't 8ch. Further, I think it would be more defensible to lock out Kick (not defensible, but more defensible) if twitch had any other real competition in the live streaming space.
An open source project locking out platforms for allowing freer speech than twitch is shameful. It's embarrassing.
I agree there should be a consideration of where OBS funding comes from, and if I were Kick I'd support a maintainer of an OBS fork.
Wouldn't it be better to just support approved vendors? That way we know that only trustworthy and upstanding services will be used. I mean maybe custom has some fringe use cases beyond public broadcast... but frankly speaking are you really going to preserve those marginal use cases when the morals of a society are at stake?
Truly a sensible decision on their part.