This is a sidebar that I think is historically underappreciated.
Take a look at this incredible graphic, which goes up to 2005: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_earthquakes#/media/Fi...
For the period from 1906 to 2005, half of all the energy released by all recorded earthquakes came from just three events, one of which being the Alaskan quake.
Logarithmic scales are scary.
One of my favorite book series is Woodswoman, about a lady who set out into Vermont to build herself a lakeside cabin from scratch and made a living off maple farming. The several books detail her trials and tribulations, but also her joyful swims and happy encounters with the neighbors.
I would love to hear about more encounters like that in Alaska, not just the people who trek out there but never make it.
https://www.nps.gov/lacl/learn/historyculture/proennekes-cab...
I don't imagine those folks spend much time writing about their lives on the internet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3NWdFll2X8
Not super long term, but interesting!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Proenneke
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they lived. that is not nil. it enriched their lives.
But, eh, I wouldn't say they lived and thrived there.
Some other people have done the very far out life. Here's one: https://hellscanyon.tours/2022/08/15/all-about-buckskin-bill... is one example.
I think its very feasible.... for people who know what they are doing. This probably requires basically an apprenticeship.
Ideas of value are obviously subjective.
Having said that, I do have a long-standing issue with the relatively small group of people who try to go their own way from society without a modicum of understanding about what kind of work and skills will be required. As well as an issue with the larger group of people who cheer on these folks and either enable this behavior or become subject to this behavior themselves.
Where do my feelings on the subject come from? Well, "into the wild" was required reading my freshman year of college. And I was forced to engage in dozens of discussions treating McCandless as a tragic hero, instead of an idiot.
My issue isn't necessarily with people wanting to get away from mainstream society, but it is going about it in an absolutely boneheaded manner. I have an immense amount of respect for people like dick proenekke
https://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm?adfg=disease.muscle2
> All bear and lynx meat should be considered possibly infected.
Isn’t sausage the goto thing when you want to take meat that would otherwise be nasty and turn it into something palatable?
I don’t think you statement contradicts the parent post about bear meat being not good
Sure. I think that's stating the obvious though.
Is there an analogy for media and information?
I don’t agree with your second point. It’s pretty good, especially spring bear. That said, I avoid bears that eat a lot of spawning salmon in the fall.
People have eaten bears for literally millennia, especially indigenous North Americans. It’s not some recent thing that we are wrong to do. They are a natural prey animal in eg BC, where they live in high densities.
Who said it was wrong? I said bears harbor parasites (they do), and that the meat is bad (which is my opinion, I guess).
! Dont Cook it in Your House !
it often ends up feeding sled dogs.
I have enough experience with it to know it is far harder than most people imagine, but still think there is a lot that I think is positive about it.
With that said, pioneers and mountain men ate bear meat. They preferred bear paws due to the high fat content I think.
organ products, from game are kinda risky.
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Each level up increases the concentration of toxin because the n-th level is eating the (n-1) level which has a higher concentration than the (n-2) level that the (n-1) ate.
Similarly, if we posit that all else being equal [1] a sociopath is more likely to go up a hierarchical level, then the nth level is promoted from the n-1 level that is more sociopathic than the n-2.
I also believe that presidential democracies are more prone to this concentration of sociopaths because voting the higher offices is more divorced from the voter (ie you dont know who you are voting for personally and are more easily mislead). Parliamentary (or congressional seats) democracy is more resistant to psychos. Monarchies are immune (except for genetic inheritance), but of course come with their own set of problems.
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[1] a similar assumption is made for toxins.
Domestic goose is better than wild goose, but grass-fed elk (that is, ranched elk) just tastes like beef. Likewise with grass-fed bison. Truly wild elk has that gaminess to it that I really appreciate. I've a recipe for venison burger casserole that is utterly flavorless when made with ground beef. Bear sausage is only good when its heavily mixed with actual pork, and spiced to hell and back.
Deer and pronghorn that graze on sagebrush actually taste sagey. If that's your jam, its fantastic.
I buy half a cow every year from local farmers, and I'd put my ground elk up against that ground beef any day (though I do have to add suet because elk is so lean). In fact, nobody that I serve elk to knows that it's elk until/unless I tell them.
If your wild game tastes bad, you messed up somewhere along the line. Get it cold as soon as possible, keep it clean, and the meat will be great.
Not even duck? That is a bit surprising.
The main advantage of commercially produced beef, chicken, and pork is that you can eat it rare & raw.
I think what I was most reacting to was your statement "wasting their time producing nothing much of a value". I took this to mean value to the greater community, and I strongly disagree that this should be the main benchmark which people should be judged against. It strikes me as oddly entitled to their labor.
They were trying to build a house, but they failed miserably. Because they lacked some very basic skills, and the ability to plan. I think most people should realize that building a 5 story A-frame as your first home, by yourself, in the wilderness, is not the easiest of tasks. Maybe try a 1 story A-frame first? Or a log cabin.
I would put "getting my values from editorialized stories and school teachers" as one step below "getting my values from Reddit and Twitter" on the "how divorced from reality are my sensibilities" scale. Better, but not great.
