WWDC 2024 [video]

vundercind 2 years ago |

I like how fast they turned “ha ha, at least they have a sense of humor about how stupid it is that it’s taken this long to get Calculator on iPad” into “…oh my” when Pencil entered the picture.

Good that it delivers something really nice and isn’t just finally getting the damn thing on iPad.

cgearhart 2 years ago | |

Seems like they waited until they could do what Craig said of an iPad calculator app in 2020, “There’s some things that we have not done because we would want to do something really distinctly great in that space,” the Apple VP explained. “We want to do it when we can do it really, really well. And we honestly just haven’t gotten around to doing it great.”

https://apple.news/Avb5yX1lORG2uYmyWAB8VsA

markatkinson 2 years ago | |

Yea I was tempted to make a joke that it took them 14 years (still ridiculous), but the new calculator app actually looks really impressive, and potentially will make learning math a lot more fun.

BXlnt2EachOther 2 years ago |

I'm not an iPhone user and not aware of any anti-spam features the Mail app already has, but I wonder how many marketing managers recoiled in their chairs when Apple introduced a GMail-style "promotions" folder away from the inbox, and say it's easy to group-digest and delete all mails from a single business.

edit for typo and clarity

doctorpangloss 2 years ago | |

The Promotions tab could be much better in a stroke of a pen. Google just doesn’t want it to be.

markatkinson 2 years ago |

This feels like a parody of itself at times. I really wish they'd make these less cringeworthy so I could actually sit through the whole thing.

cube2222 2 years ago | |

I'm quite sure (and hope) that in many cases - at least in this year's WWDC keynote - it was in fact intentionally a parody of itself.

A bunch of these were really on the nose.

dmix 2 years ago | | |

Yeah it seems kinda meta and extra chippy than I remember it

moscoe 2 years ago | |

Remember when WWDC was actually cool/fun? The dad jokes and over the top marketing BS is truly insufferable at this point.

Apple is definitely in its Balmer era. Give us something to get excited about, the presenters aren’t even excited about what they’re presenting.

menacingly 2 years ago | |

it feels like microsoft showing off apple software

isoprophlex 2 years ago |

If you'd play a drinking game where you take a sip everyone assumes that awkward power stance, you'd be completely wasted 20 minutes in

dev_daftly 2 years ago |

So far, everything should have just been a blog post

jadbox 2 years ago | |

I'm also feel Apple announced a bunch of feature that doesn't make the platform more useful in any general way. Like, I don't NEED iOS to pick my watch background photo or recolor my icons.

doctorpangloss 2 years ago | | |

On the contrary these aesthetic things are what like 99% of people actually want.

kube-system 2 years ago | | |

Android has long had more aesthetic customization, but I doubt a statistically significant number of people make buying decisions based on it.

They are features people use, but they're refinements rather than significant advancements. I think the root of the situation here is that smartphones are mostly feature-complete.

dvfjsdhgfv 2 years ago | | |

I'm sorry for a personal off-topic rant, but if true this just makes me sad.

kube-system 2 years ago | | |

Somewhere a tailor is sad that people care more about what color their T-shirt is, rather than the type of weave and stitch pattern. But phones, like T-shirts, are now just commodities.

Apocryphon 2 years ago |

I have to wonder what Jobs would have thought about contemporary Apple using AI to mindlessly generate imitation Pixar images.

verticalscaler 2 years ago | |

He would call them a bunch of tasteless bozos.

menacingly 2 years ago |

this is the video form of "bug fixes and performance improvements", and about as charismatic

rjeli 2 years ago |

Got in late, seems like I can't rewind on this stream??

alberth 2 years ago | |

Since rewind is disabled, here's a live summary: https://www.macrumors.com/2024/06/10/wwdc-2024-live-coverage...

schmidtleonard 2 years ago | | |

20 years ago I followed the macrumors WWDC feed because streaming was broken (for bandwidth / my connection / quicktime reasons). Today, I will follow the macrumors WWDC feed because streaming is broken (for artistic direction reasons). The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Thanks, macrumors.

wsinks 2 years ago | | |

Thank you!

wsinks 2 years ago | |

Same behavior for me, I assume that they're going to let the thing play out and then you'll be able to replay once the event finishes. Not sure why this has changed from other livestreams.

norman784 2 years ago | |

Sadly Apple always disables that feature.

scop 2 years ago |

I really wish they would switch these back to being live. It just adds a human element that cannot be captured with this crap. Steve stood up there in a black sweater and let the tech speak for itself. On these I'm stuck beholding the same class of high-income-Silicon-Valley-mid-40s where they are all kind of weirdly look and sound the same even though they are all trying so hard to have unique styles and they are all just so excited to be telling you the thing that is really important and gives their life deep meaning and peace and they are so happy.

kelseydh 2 years ago | |

Agree, seeing is believing. You can use CGI to make anything you want when it's video.

BillyTheKing 2 years ago |

and once again - another year with a great iPad Hardware wise but essentially unusable for coding tasks software wise.. Would love a reason to buy one and use as a travel coding machine but without local support it remains a non-starter

sudofail 2 years ago | |

I'm very disappointed they didn't make any improvements in this area. This was the number 1 thing I was hoping from.

ksec 2 years ago |

I dislike a lot of the iOS changes are making it more "Android". It doesn't make things any easier or simpler. If I wanted ultra customisation I would have gotten an Android. And no Password App on iOS 18.

jpalawaga 2 years ago | |

It's so good, every time I hear that apple has added essential functionality, I'm just like, 'about damn time'.

The customizations don't have to be used if you don't want them.

vundercind 2 years ago | |

Preach. iOS 6 UI was peak iOS UI.

behnamoh 2 years ago | | |

This. And then a coup happened inside Apple (the Apple maps debacle) to oust Scott Forstall.

jimbob45 2 years ago | | |

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Forstall#Departure_from_...

Reading his Wikipedia article, it seems like Cook made every misstep possible with Forstall. Does anyone honestly think Cook would still be CEO if he didn't have the massive momentum of iPhones behind him? Cook seems like he'll be considered this generation's Ballmer when all is said and done: a mediocre CEO that let massive advantages slip away and a board of directors that was too complacent to make the necessary changes to secure future growth.

treyfitty 2 years ago |

Apple announcements, especially WWDC used to be very exciting. I've watched all Apple announcements live since 2020ish. This is the first year where I am not watching live because it's been "meh" for a while now, and I can just read about it later.

menacingly 2 years ago | |

you should have seen them when they had a soul

isoprophlex 2 years ago | |

Come on! You can place icons on the front screen in any position you want now!!

balls187 2 years ago |

I expect Siri/OpenAI integration is going to be the star of the show.

wslh 2 years ago | |

Honestly, I expect than a Siri/OpenAI integration incorporates security measures and some kind of isolation from bare bone OpenAI/ChatGPT.

The interesting question, businesswise, is who will pay who. In the case of Google Search Engine it was Google who paid Apple! [1].

[1] https://searchengineland.com/google-pay-apple-safari-revenue...

balls187 2 years ago | | |

Yes, I agree. I assume it runs entirely on device, and that's why it will require at least an Iphone15pro or higher.

frizlab 2 years ago |

And here’s the Apple Developer link… https://developer.apple.com/wwdc24/

mikerg87 2 years ago |

Shame there was no mention that the Apple ][ launch on June 10, 1977. At least I didnt see anything in the running MacRumors summary.

jasonyoyo 2 years ago |

Interesting the AAPL stock took a downturn right at 2:10pm EST after going up.

Jtsummers 2 years ago | |

It's happened before (and with many other companies, not just Apple). It was trading higher over the last week in the lead up to the event, then the reality kicks in and people realize "Oh, there's really nothing groundbreaking that's going to triple the value of the company? Sell sell sell!" It's still up 11% (at this moment) from 90 days ago, and down about 0.5% from 5 days ago.

skc 2 years ago |

Math notes looks incredible, but it's probably one of those features that will be infuriating for anything remotely complex.

menacingly 2 years ago |

To a technical person, the discussion around AI felt really creepy and disingenuous, full of irrelevant distractions

_1 2 years ago |

lol .. place icons anywhere

wsinks 2 years ago | |

Yeah, the very first announcement is something that android has been able to do since... 2012? Surprising. I'd love to see the apple marketing persona info on who watches these.

vundercind 2 years ago | |

Just catching up on it, saw that. Gross, hope it’s optional, I don’t want to have to precisely place them.

Max_Horstmann 2 years ago | |

literally lol'ed too