This doesn't answer the question tho. Utterly ridiculous.

Telegram bots are simpler and has never ever failed me. Much more reliable.

> Typically hacking gains you more control over things

only according to the more modern definition of “hacking”

the earlier version of the term referred to people who write novel, interesting or clever software for the love of the craft.

i think using discord as a free message queue (see spivak’s comment in the thread) is pretty damn clever actually.

i kinda want to build something with it now.

I use Discord for notifications when someone starts a "Chat with customer support" chat on my site. I tried various "chat button" solutions, but I ended up writing the chat system myself because no solution was really tailored to my task (esp. custom file type uploads and Google Ads integration, so I know which ad started a chat). I need to react 24/7 to new customers, so I needed a tool to ping me with notifications on my phone. The chat messages are still saved in the company database, but I send a link with the Chat ID to Discord, so that someone can instantly login to the admin panel and reply to the customer.

Using Discord, all I had to do was to create a new, empty company server, copy the webhook URL and then POST to the URL and boom I get a ping notification with the Chat ID on my phone (or I can @ a colleague to distribute the customer support for different timezones).

It's not a very "orthodox" solution, but it certainly sucks less than the alternatives (plus it's free).

> It's a completely free, both in message volume and queue size, highly available hosted 1-1 and 1-n topic based message queue with automatic sharding, excellent performance, and high-quality prebuilt libraries. It has built-in notification support to all platforms and a basic UI toolkit that is easy to use.

"Thanks, I'll base my next enterprise project on Discord as the message queue of choice."

Hah, what an amusing way to look at things, thanks for that.

These characteristics are common in chat applications. XMPP realised this and has native Pub/Sub support in the protocol, in addition to messages https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0060.html

Are you serious?

You don't have opportunity cost of missed business, if the alternative is that you don't exist. If it allows you to launch faster, you aren't losing business by not having every feature; you're gaining business that you would've lost by not launching sooner. You can always build the extra features later.

Midjourney avoided having to make a frontend at first, meaning they launched faster. Once they got product/market fit, they built a web frontend, which is now better than the Discord interface. Seems like a pretty smart strategy, that worked well, for a completely bootstrapped company that never raised VC.

I mean, huge bots are doing just that.

Your own non-approved bot might get rate-limited hard though.

if i walk in and out of a room 100 times in a day, that is an average of 0.001157 messages per second required to turn lights on/off.

i highly doubt i’ll be rate limited for that.

were not talking an enterprise use case here. not every problem is faceboook scale.

also, discord is free to use and has very thorough documentation, on top of all the things previously mentioned. so there’s definitely upsides to it.