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Definitely has to be a bit of a #yolo project launch though. Other concerns as well including GDPR compliance
Damn, even Afghanistan has a dozen available.
nit: country label appears under the mouse. Edge Browser, Mac
hi from Pleyr, https://pleyr.net/
What you see in the repo is a lot of different HLS manifest[1], which in turn pointed to different questionable sources of all the OTT streams around the world.
[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_IPTV_Forum [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_Live_Streaming
Nowadays theres better tools for the job. StreamMaster* for example can handle thousands of IPTV sources and let you organise them nicely into something that can be read by Plex, Jellyfin, etc.
*Sadly recently abandoned but still available on github.
Users in the United Kingdom are restricted from tuning in to stations outside of the UK for an indefinite period due to copyright and neighboring rights related matters that require clarification.
Stations situated in the UK continue to be available.
For more information please read the statement in the 'Settings' section."
I suppose that the not public podcasts could be aggregated somewhere, but I'm less of a fan of that, and there's also some technical reasons why this would be more difficult than it was to aggregate these IPTV HLS streams.
Being able to view them by country or whatever is interesting, though I think perhaps less so for podcasts than something like live news, but not a bad idea
Clicked on a channel in the Philippines and immediately had to sit through 5 soap related commercials, precisely what I recall from my time there.
But now I want to actively want to know how ads look all around the world.
Not the skin-lightening kind, I hope? Those ads were... odd.
I spent the late-1990s in Manila, for me it was Jollibee ads, and an oddly recurrent anti-corruption PSA which, I think, made corruption look quite appealing, actually.
I agree the skin lightening soap was weird for me too. Its kind of interesting how people yearn for what they don't have (pale light skin women in the west tanning, tan darker skinned women in the east lightening...)
Props to the youtube engineering team I guess!
I also see TVs that are normally subject to fees. I'm aware the FAQs say it's only public streams, but I fear this won't last long.
I do wish there was some kind of Shazam for movies/tv shows because there are times when I flip on one of those in the middle of a movie, get into it, and then have the hardest time trying to find the name of it.
> The reason for Bernd's depression was revealed in the 85th episode of the series. In his telling: "[...] A long, long time ago I fell in love with a beautiful, slim baguette. She was so unbelievably charming and funny. But unfortunately, my affection was in vain. She only had eyes for this perfect stranger, a multigrain bread. It was so devastating. [...] My heart has been a dry clump of flour ever since."
Late at night (i.e. right now in the US), KiKA plays a "late night loop" starring Bernd.
So, there are a bunch of open http endpoints serving free video feeds and they don't care about bandwidth?
It's not like radio where you broadcast it and people passively receive the signal.
This is a great service for language practice, though. Wish it had a login + favorites system.
How is that even enforced?
That said, the first one I tried (a German public broadcaster) was showing a static image of “this programme is currently unavailable for legal reasons”. (I believe they do IP-based geofencing for legal/broadcasting rights reasons.)
They show the news at the top of every hour so we check in pretty regularly.
Mostly targeted to elderly people, but funny to watch every once in a while. You can even go there in person for quite cheap
Then again, the "algorithm"(TM) is geared to showing you what captures your attention in order to keep you watching and get those ad impressions out of you, so the videos end up being very same.
Also it's curious, a few days after that hurrican/flooding in a few months ago, a lot of the videos being shown were about houses being swept away in water. A few days ago a lot of the videos were of water falling off infinity pools and that collapsing skyscraper in Thailand (RIP).
That's actually what a huge number of the channels on this site are, and I do wish they were labeled and filterable that way.
Also, as someone that studied Geography extensively, it's an excellent review in that respect as well. One can quickly jump from one place to another.
Bonus points for using a globe, and not a map!
If you wanted -- and you had the data, which you probably don't -- you could make the sorting criteria the share of viewers (ie. percentage as opposed to absolute numbers), that way countries with unusually large audiences wouldn't always appear at the top. Though that comes with its own issues.
Yes multicast, however you can't do multicast over the internet. In practise the technology is mainly used in production and enterprise scenarios (broadcast, signage, hotels, stadiums, etc).
Instead big streaming platforms like netflix or twich use CDN boxes installed locally at major ISPs. Also with so much hardware acceleration on modern NICs these days, it's surprisingly easy to handle Gbits of throughput for audio/video streaming.
The URL updates with the channel you’re watching. Your browser bookmarks could be used as your own favorites system.
But is this really a concern for them? If they are making money from advertisement this just add them justification for higher price of an ad.
It is not likely useful to them in negotiating ad rates, at least not with how advertising is usually bought/sold, because the broadcaster has almost no information (if any) about anyone watching these streams, including if it's even a person. It's possible they could fold it into a more general ad package that places a lot of weight on total view/viewers numbers, but that is a lot less common these days, and when it is done, the rates tend to be much lower
Definitely a lot of these are also [re]broadcasts from vendors, probably for a specific platform or distribution target, that people found the URLs for and that the original source isn't super aware of the details of
https://iptv.example.com/720p.m3u8? I doubt you'll convince many courts of that being nonpublic.
If they didn't want their content watched abroad, they would add geoblocking or authentication. Some of the ones listed on TFA actually do that for parts of their program.
Some parts of the internet do actually support multicast. The BBC did IPTV via multicast to subscribers in the UK for a while.
Lots of the US and CA ones look to be the same sort of situation. You'll find most wont work without a VPN as they are geo blocked.
Very cool project
..which is yet again something I find both interesting and kind of funny (that they have "standardized" the philosophy of "pay what you want")
> The claimants say that a finding for the defendant will fatally undermine copyright. The defendant says that a finding for the claimants will break the internet.
As usual, this happened due to rather rabid approach to copyright by big American labels. They may be legally in the right, though their actions, as always, have meaningful negative externalities. How far they reach in this case is unclear, but TuneIn and Radio Garden both have blocked non-UK streams for UK listeners.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TuneIn#Legal_issues
[1] https://excesscopyright.blogspot.com/2019/11/did-uk-judge-ju...
And TuneIn and Radio Garden don't even host any streams, to my knowledge; they're mere directories!
Overall, the UK TuneIn service was valuable to the public. And it is an example of such value being destroyed by copyright laws. This is yet another topic that many people have said much on.
I'm all for sharing, but I was hoping this bit of awesome joy would not be linked here.
I wonder if OP heard about it from the NA podcast or from someone who does listen to it. It was mentioned last week Thursday to the tune of a million people, so, I guess "yes".
There are a zillion streams on this site, so unclear if enough additional traffic will be going to any particular one of them to be noticed by the sources. Certainly some number of media company employees will be aware of it due to it hitting HN, but I have my doubts that there are many media employees who read HN who didn't already know these things existed and/or would do anything about it
What podcast do you mean?
https://noagenda.clipgenie.com/content/34613737-6134-3364-66...
On a related note, that's a pretty neat site for podcasts.
I vaguely remember that John C. Dvorak had a podcast, but I honestly had forgotten about him since the TechTV/ZDTV days. Though I may not always agree with him, I've always appreciated his point of view and personality.
In the world of tech journalism, he's one of the best.
I agree about stream directory services in general, but I'm a bit on the fence about TuneIn in particular.
It started out very useful, especially as the de facto backbone for Google Home devices – I believe they back or at least used to back "Hey Google, play <station name>".
But lately they started playing "pre-roll ads", and I think lately even playing ads over the live content, and I'm not entirely sure if they even share the revenue of those, or of premium subscriptions that avoid ads, with the underlying radio stations.