Nukes, Nubs And Coners: The Social Hierarchy Aboard A Nuclear Submarine (2020)

potato3732842 280 days ago | |

The idea that a navy vessel wouldn't be equipped to provide its own security in port or dispatch an armed team on a launch is a non-starter.

John23832 280 days ago | |

Because submarines are still ships that can be boarded. This is more for defense of the crew vs offense.

FirmwareBurner 280 days ago | | |

Firing rounds inside a nuclear submarine? Isn't it like firing a gun inside a plane?

rtkwe 280 days ago | | |

It's definitely a thing you don't do without good reason (enemy boarding action/mutiny) but remember subs are designed to survive nearby explosions underwater; there's redundancy and there's massive amounts of time spent training damage control where your repair or work around damaged systems.

John23832 280 days ago | | |

Yes. What's wrong with that?

A 9mm, buck shot, or even a 556 (which they are not using on a sub) is not piercing the pressure hull of a submarine. That's before considering all the other mass of metal and matter within the sub.

esseph 280 days ago | | |

5.56 is fine in a sub.

Technically firing a .50 / 12.7mm should be fine for the hull even with API.

Bulkheads are thick.

(Note: SynTech / frangible ammo preferred)

John23832 280 days ago | | |

I really meant that at the ranges that you would probably be engaging at in a sub (sub 10ft) a 556 is not the correct round to use.

happytoexplain 280 days ago | | |

I mean, I guess there's more risk of ricochets and equipment damage on a sub than a ship? Regardless, a lot of "don't do that" things become "you might have to do that" things in a combat scenario.

exar0815 280 days ago | | |

There are a lot of things that don't react well to bullets in a submarine. One Jack Ryan comes to mind...

fred_is_fred 280 days ago | |

Primarily in case a KGB agent (incognito as a cook's mate) wants to stop a mutiny lead by a group of officers and aided by the CIA.

praptak 280 days ago | |

Possibility of mutiny, sabotage or just someone becoming dangerous because of personal conflicts or mental illness.

brudgers 277 days ago | |

If that's what the mission requires, yes of course.

Of course, other aspects of other missions might also require firearms.

And since they have fucking nukes, all possible scales of violence are literally on the table.

charlieo88 280 days ago | |

I grew up watching Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea... those guys were always needing to break out the small arms. Apparently lots of rowdy sea critters looking to get in the boat.

dbalatero 280 days ago | |

Defense while docked at port.