State of the Bird 2024/25

State of the Bird 2024/25(blog.thunderbird.net)

12 points by mzur 268 days ago | 8 comments

johnea 268 days ago |

> updates that make Thunderbird feel fresher

This is coded language for screwing around with the UI again 8-/

I've used thunderbird for decades, I wish they'd stop changing the UI, and make the basic IMAP fetch functionality work.

Having a true maildir storage format would also be nice.

I don't want _any_ software that I use in my workflow to "feel fresh". I want the UI to remain stable, so I don't have to retrain my muscle memory.

The scroll bars that disappear still annoy me. along with the recent changes putting their buttons across the top of the window...

everybodyknows 268 days ago | |

> I want the UI to remain stable,

Certainly, though with one exception: Contextual help for controls, especially for infrequent actions like configuration, which to an ordinary user feels new every time.

Specifically, one or more of:

- Circled "i" links

- Hover-help

- Conflicting option selections to grey out, rather than disappear

lagniappe 268 days ago |

Re: financial contributions - When I hear "investments in our shared values" I automatically assume they're referencing things outside of building an email client.

nanna 268 days ago |

Please. Fix. Search. Please. Fix. Search.

mzur 268 days ago | |

They wrote about this recently. With "Panorama" [1] they want to introduce an SQLite DB for all messages that will also be responsible for the search index.

[1] https://blog.thunderbird.net/2025/10/video-conversation-view...

isaachinman 268 days ago | |

Perhaps give us a look:

https://marcoapp.io

Search is single-digit ms!

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johnea 268 days ago | |

I had to correct my child's kindergarten teacher on this same sequence.

The correct order is: 0123456789