Ecology is a dirty word to many people.

They are like heavy sleepers refusing to be aroused. "Leave me alone! It's not time to get up yet!"

They retreat into death games and other violence, "hiding their awareness from the terrifying necessities of this moment.

If any human sees a clear choice between life and death, then chooses death, we call that insane. Why do we accept it when it happens on a world scale?

We must shake the sleepers—gently and persistently, saying: "Time to get up."

— FRANK HERBERT

some interviews with Herbert, audio only

https://archive.org/details/cfls_00001/cfls_00001_t01_a_acce...