Immigration Agencies Are Openly Defying Federal Courts

Immigration Agencies Are Openly Defying Federal Courts(lpeproject.org)

103 points by abrownbear 117 days ago | 13 comments

abrownbear 117 days ago |

As always, the most important aspect of this story is scale: "Given the scale of the deportation agencies, there is simply no way for legal responses to keep pace with the lawless mass lockup. Unlike ICE, the habeas bar did not receive a multi-billion dollar investment to underwrite limitless expansion."

mgrat 117 days ago |

DHS has become what actual conservatives were worried about during its creation - super federal power without balance. There exists precedence within the US: the military. They are granted extraordinary powers at the discretion of civilian government. It employs Officers to manage it across branches, they are paid well, and their employ is terminated if their charges fail. If boots on the ground fail there is the UCMJ, which is quite happy to hold you accountable under 'conduct unbecoming' if any of the specific laws don't happen to pertain to you. The JAG handles prosecutions and you are judged by your peers.

In the case of federal law enforcement, I'd recommend they be generally charged with upholding specific general orders and tactics approved by congress. Make the statute of limitations 9 years. The jury should consist of federal law enforcement for fairness. But ultimately make them accountable to a specific federal justice system like the military does. Will all the wrongs be made right in real time - no. Will there be instant justice - no. It would hold people accountable, there would be a chance for someone to go to law school to right some wrongs.

corygarms 117 days ago | |

I assume the 9 years here is to ensure two-term presidents will have vacated office?

mgrat 117 days ago | | |

Correct - and incoming POTUS will have to use up political capital to do so.

grumio 117 days ago | |

They should be seen in a normal court like the rest of us peasants.

No star courts.

mgrat 117 days ago | | |

Not arguing for star courts. The UCMJ is a supplement to civilian courts, but applies additional levers. I am arguing that a similar system be applied to federal LEO. Right now they are only beholden to the civilian system. How is that going? Even if the administration prosecuted ICE for murder, it'd just get chucked out of federal court. All the 'officer' would have to do is not enter the state again.

frogperson 117 days ago |

Constitution be damned, because someone, somewhere needs to make a profit.

I really wish it wish it was possible to trigger a re-call vote for congress, the senate, potus, and the supreme court.

vfclists 117 days ago |

Could this be the results of incentivization by the Prison Industrial Complex, where ICE has become a useful tool for it?

wyldfire 117 days ago | |

I think this comment denies the reality that we see in Minneapolis. It's not merely some corporate boss who says "yes I know there's a court order but we are making tons of dough here!" It's the individuals themselves who opted to work for ICE who believe that their mission supersedes justice as meted by courts.

They see the former world order as not equipped to handle the "reality" of a "legalized invasion." So they think they are just in restoring hierarchy between Whites and Others. They are whipped up by a cult of personality and the leadership within the administration is just like them.