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> NAQ (Never Asked Questions)
> My website is on your list!
> Cry about it.
That's quite a suspicious attitude. Clearly the maintainer believes he is infallible. I understand the emotions behind this, but this is not how a public blacklist should be maintained.
Easylist and its sublist are notorious for being poorly maintained and ignoring issues opened against it. Adguard is much more active in maintaining its lists. Especially Adguard its language blocklists have much, much less breakage and missed ads than Easylist.
Personally I don't want to introduce any chance of my DNS being a problem.
These days anticheat software is likely to snap at anything. Who knows what they think of the development tools Hacker News users are likely to have on their computers? They really hate virtual machines for example. There's no telling how they'd react to a debugger or profiler.
> A personal list for uBlock Origin
But if it’s the author’s blocklist that is wrong, unverified, and causing harm to others? Cry about it.
A nice alternative to this very broad anti ai list: https://github.com/laylavish/uBlockOrigin-HUGE-AI-Blocklist
Edit: Oh I should mention I found it through reddit and there is some good discussion there where they describe how they find stuff etc: https://www.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/1r9uo3j/autom...
> All I hear is skill issue. Imagine needing an AI to write stuff.
Grammarly users (and underrepresented non-English speakers) would complain.
I ask becaue it considers @lilycoy__ (an obvious AI generated account, as quoted by Robin Hanson <https://x.com/robinhanson/status/2025332066552819782>) to be "100% human"
In the enterprise space, there are URL reputation providers. They categorize sites based on different criteria, and network administrators block or warn users based on that information.
In my humble opinion, there needs to be a crowdsourced fund (or ideally governments would take this seriously and fund it on behalf of people) for enabling technologies that allow user friendly internet experiences. Browsers, frameworks, vpn providers, site-reputation, deceptive content, dns-providers, email providers,trusted certificate authorities(no,google and microsoft shouldn't get to police that), nation-state or corporate affiliations,etc... You shouldn't need to setup a pi-hole.
Imagine a $1B/yr non-profit fund for this stuff. if 10M people paid $10/mo that's $1.2B/yr. Proton has $97M revenue in 2024 and 100M total accounts (I don't know how many pay but the spread is roughly $1/user). I really think now is the time to talk about this when so many are wary of US tech giants and looking for other opportunities.
[1] https://github.com/alvi-se/ai-ublock-blacklist/commit/f6ee8d...
Occasionally I'll get one site that refuses to load because I've got an "adblocker" but most sites do work fine, just with way fewer ads.
Metaphorically speaking, it’s the Borg we’re dealing with, not the Klingons. All Janeway did was slow the Borg’s progress.
He may not be too far off.
The bots and SEO spammers already fill sites with garbage =3
Reminds me of [1]twitch.tv trying to remove "blind playthrough" as a tag to encourage inclusive language.
1. https://www.reddit.com/r/Twitch/comments/k7dvgw/twitch_remov...
Unfortunately, MANY people still think this is nonsense and shouldn't be given attention. What you don't understand is that you subtly say that things from Black people are bad and things from white people are good. Do you know what that causes in the end?
A company "of Black people" applies for YC and has a higher chance of being rejected than a company of/for white people, even if it's a necessary solution. You doubt it? Try it!
The only point I'm making is that (as a Black person) I have the authority to tell you that it's important and how I feel. You can defend whatever you want, I'm just communicating and SUGGESTING that you change the term.
What I find funny is that many here argue that we can't even SUGGEST. And they still say they're in favor of democracy. Oh, okay!
But I wouldn't call the person that maintains the news letter popup block list as "newsletter hater"
While I applaud the honesty of sites that are open about their content being AI generated, that type of content is never what I'm looking for when I search, so if they're in my search results it's just more distraction/clutter drowning out whatever I'm actually looking for. Blocking them improves my search experience slightly, even though there is of course still lots of other unwanted results remaining.
Granted, I definitely count as an AI hater (speaking of LLM's specifically). But even if I weren't, I don't think I'd be seeking it out specifically using a search engine; why would I do that when I could just go straight to chatgpt or whatever myself? Search is usually where people go to find real human answers (which is why appending "reddit" to one's searches became so common). So I see this as a utility thing, more than a "I am blocking all this just because I hate it" thing. Although it can be both, certainly.
Edit: removed an off-topic tangent
Edit: https://gist.github.com/SMUsamaShah/6573b27441d99a0a0c792431...
The big anti ai list also seems to be focused on hiding links from ddg/bing/google where this new more focused list just blocks sites. I tend to like block ones vs hiding because they pop up a nice warning no matter where I came from and I can still decide to ignore it if I want so they is more user agency instead of just quietly hiding a unclear chunk of the net from search engines.
E.g., bought a domain that previously hosted AI content.
E.g., Whitehouse.com used to be a porn site, now it’s not.
Before buying a domain you should check if it's present in blacklists.
> Whitehouse.com used to be a porn site, now it’s not.
I won't lose sleep over that.
That being said this project seems focused on content farms not people who just need a little help writing so this whole conversation is a bit of a side tangent.
I get why it's tempting, good translators are expensive, and few and far between. A friend of my is a professional translator and she's not exactly in need of work, but a lot of customers look at her prices and opt for machine translations instead and the result not always impressive. Errors range from wrong words, bad sentence structure to an inability to correctly translate cultural references.
Op is going after AI slop bot farms like android authority
From the story:
“Spam-filters, actually. Once they became self-modifying, spam-filters and spam-bots got into a war to see which could act more human, and since their failures invoked a human judgement about whether their material were convincingly human, it was like a trillion Turing-tests from which they could learn. From there came the first machine-intelligence algorithms, and then my kind.”
Blacklist it is, for me.
Eu-based, fwiw. As i grew up we were coloUred, for a while, and then 'black' became the easy way to descibe ourselves.
Some tools are useful without updates. A blocklist for AI content farms that are sprouting like crazy is not helpful if it isn't updated.
He's not complaining that widgets for his favorite social network site is getting blocked, he's complaining that anything vaguely related to social networks are getting banned. Some of the sites on that list are stuff like chatgpt.com, which might be AI related, but clearly doesn't fit the criteria of "AI generated content, for the purposes of cleaning image search engines".
Nice of you to slip this "easy" step into your advice. Give me a break!
If you know how to run a Pi Hole, you know how to run Adguard Home. And installing Chromium / Firefox / Safari extensions isn't exactly rocket science.
>...all your friends to switch to ...<
:-))
That would be like refusing to allow someone to buy a house because the last owner was a convicted of a crime. Sorry, we gotta demolish the house now! And nobody can live on the plot.
The owner of this repo is free to do whatever they want but I’m free to point out that it’s a dumb practice.
You should stop thinking by analogies. You're doing a disservice to yourself and your thinking capacity.
> The owner of this repo is free to do whatever they want but I’m free to point out that it’s a dumb practice.
I find it very useful, just like most of its users, and if ever I were to find it necessary to use a website that's obviously blocked, I know how to unblock it. Most of the time I don't bother, so that's something for you to think.
Check out this amazing episode:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26296339
Dude got so fed up with long loading times he debugged the game and not only discovered the cause but actually fixed it. Billion dollar corporation couldn't be assed to do it.
Gotta wonder if this guy wouldn't have gotten banned by the anticheat for having the audacity to hook into the game with a debugger or something. Only cheaters do that sort of thing right?
I'm saying that changing words like "blacklist" or "master" is purely performative and actually quite selfish. People do it to feel good about themselves for "helping" without actually having to do anything helpful. It's the moral equivalent of sending "thoughts and prayers".
If changing a word is "purely performative," then keeping it is also purely performative. The difference is that one choice preserves a metaphor of domination and the other does not. Technology is made of choices. This is one too.
That means I won't bother fighting changes that became established before I was born. I most definitely doesn't mean I have to go along with every change I see proposed now.
> If there are equivalent technical alternatives that don't carry a history of oppression
Words are not oppression.
It cost time and coding work to make the change.
I know that some people translate my French posts to read them. That’s really cool. But I would never post something I didn’t write myself (but I use spellcheking tools. I even sometimes disagree with them)
Not everyone can. Try going to rural Spain and handing out flyers in English and ask them to translate it themselves, 0% of the people will translate it themselves, it'll go straight into the trash. If you instead hand them something in a language they understand, there is a least a chance they'll read it, even though probably 5% will do so.
It's sometimes useful to understand that the world is much bigger and varied than what you experience locally, and what works for you and the people in one country, doesn't always work the same everywhere.
For your personal hobby site or for general online communication, you probably shouldn’t use machine translation, but it is probably useful if have B1 language skills and are checking up on your grammar, vocabulary, etc. As for using LLMs to help you write, I certainly prefer people use the traditional models over LLMs, as the traditional models still require you to think and forces you to actually learn more about the output language.
For reading somebody else’s content in a language you don‘t understand, machine translation is fine up to a point, as long as you are aware that it may not be accurate.
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† In fact I personally I think EU should mandate translator qualification, and probably would have only 20 years ago when consumer protection was still a thing they pretended to care about.
I cannot imagine what it means. To me it reads like "I know someone who can run very fast but has no legs."
this is such an incredible way to phrase what it all looks like to the rest of us. and i suspect the people doing it, just like those with obvious cosmetic surgery, have no idea how weird and off it looks.
Unfortunately our company is trying to be "AI First" so they'll just point to that and continue their bullshit.
Our company literally promotes AI slop over personally made content even if it's mediocre crap. All they care about is rising usage numbers of things like copilot in office.
Whether it's "reasonable" or not comes down to politics. Optimizing for either false positives or false negatives is a policy decision. Do you punish innocents to ensure you catch every single cheater? Do you let cheaters go to ensure you don't punish innocents?
I don't really intend to discuss the above questions. I'm just pointing out the fact one of those so called complainers in the forums could very well turn out to be one of these false positives. That's what the system is optimized for.
Would you go to rural Spain without knowing a word of Spanish and handle flyers with a Spanish text you had no way to check? Seriously?
Do you recognize that you live in a system that produces racial inequality today?
If the answer is yes, then there is some level of participation, albeit minimal. Because living in a structure is already being inside it.
If you are white, your ancestors did this. They created separation and made simple words dehumanize people. So yes, you and everyone else has a chance to make amends. The choice is yours.
