also, why not chinese or indian alternatives? they're cheaper and oftentime work better
Because neither China nor India are European. Feel free to make your own vibe coded site with Chinese and Indian alternatives.
Also: You can suggest a product on the page, if you got something, feel free to use that button.
On Cloudflare, I want to be precise because a few people raised this with different arguments. There are two separate problems. Cloudflare is a US company subject to the CLOUD Act. And sdoering is right that the __cf_bm cookie fires before any user interaction, which puts the "strictly technically necessary" exemption under the ePrivacy Directive in genuinely debatable territory. Both are real criticisms for a site that claims to care about European alternatives. I'm migrating to Bunny.net in the coming days. Slovenian company, no CLOUD Act exposure, no third-party bot management cookies. I should have started there. Thanks for that suggestion.
On AI assistance: yes, I used a LLM to help build this. I made every product decision, every category judgment, and every fact check. Ente Photos being Delaware-incorporated is my mistake, not the tooling. Whether you call that vibe coding is fair. Slop means no effort. I fixed 19 wrong prices today and pulled a product within the hour when someone caught a real error. outsidein: Posteo is listed with no affiliate relationship. If something else is missing, the suggest button works. The suggestion form has 67 submissions since this went up. I'll work through them over the next few days. If you submitted something, thank you.
The "Europe does it better" banner is staying. For the memes.
11 of 125 listed products have an affiliate relationship. The other 114 link directly to the product website with no commercial connection.
To be precise: cookie consent isn't actually regulated by the GDPR itself. It falls under the ePrivacy Directive, which requires explicit consent before storing anything on a visitor's device, unless it's strictly technically necessary.
Cloudflare cookies are, at best, highly debatable as "technically necessary." So the GDPR claim is technically correct – but the site is likely non-compliant with EU law anyway.
I'd recommend dropping CF.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_media_age_verification_...
The best way to secure yourself is to find countries that are in opposition to your home country. Example: if you're in the USA, its going to be Russia and China.
Now, find cloud providers in China. Oh wait, Alibaba. Theyre cheap and great.
And, you use THEIR services. It'll be held to Chinese data standards and law. Keep that in mind. But, they likely won't give data to the USA, nor will they enforce USA law.
It does mean the Chinese can see your data. Thankfully, the CCP cannot arrest you over potentially naughty data, unless you show up in China. Same cannot be said if the US gov saw data on USA cloud systems.
And curiously, you can pay at any CVS drugstore to AliPay.
I'm a big proponent _and practitioner_ of moving away from US-controlled services. I urge people to do so at any opportunity I get and have already moved many things over. Any new project I undertake uses non-US services wherever possible.
But this vibecoded slop doesn't help much. If you want to actually be helpful, contribute to any of the 50 websites about the exact same concept that have been posted on HN over the last year.
The goal here is to earn on affiliate links.
Sorry, but as an European who roots for EU very much, I found that branding laughable, because it's absolutely not true at all. Those Eurooean alternatives are absolutely of significantly worse quality almost across the board, simply because there's less money thrown at them. It's also making it sound pretty, disingenuous, and adding to ongoing gamification of relationship with the US.
"Europe does it differently" would be so much better, because of the obvious better privacy, openness and standards compliance, as mandate by our regulations.
So Europe does it better. Maybe you just have the wrong metric in mind. And given the amount of problems exist with Office, Outlook etc. I‘m not even sure if Europe is worse on the quality site. People are just used to US software faults.
Then I mounted it as a drive on my MacBook, and moved some backup files there. The move took a while, and after it, no backups on my MacBook, and no backups on Filen. Just nothing, no log of it, nothing.
Going to stay with Dropbox.
So in this case, Europe definitely does not do it better.
Edit: I also tried to replace Sendgrid. All European alternatives are crazy expensive, so not going to replace that either.
Instead of focussing on old tech, and keep running behind US and China, maybe we should jump on the next boat.
Better software pertains to quality of software, as long as software exists, not one's privacy. So while the latter is increasingly important, let's not bend the reality, OK?
How it was decided which vendor is an alternative, what were the criteria etc
How can this be kept up to date?
Can I submit missing data, if so how?
This isn't unique at all, so what sets this one apart from the others?
[vouch] for comment, if you have that option, it got caught in the noob green comment auto-flag filter (that is easily triggered).
EDIT: now undead.
I would've still put it in the submission itself but that makes sense
Just advertising, no real privacy focused.
You need separate account for service in US vs services in EU
The information is also not stating that all links are affiliate, just that the site does contain them and some might make them money.
Not sure if baseless accusations of vote manipulation are ok here though, so I didn't comment on it.
- No sign-up, works entirely in-browser
- Live PDF preview + instant download
- VAT EU support
- Shareable invoice links
- Multi-language (10+) & multi-currency (100+)
- Multiple templates (incl. Stripe-style)
- Mobile-friendly
- QR code support
GitHub: https://github.com/VladSez/easy-invoice-pdf
Would love feedback, contributions, or ideas for other templates/features.
The project has no backend and is purely browser-based, but I’m based in Europe and developing the project here, so I consider it a European project.
PS: e-invoice is wip (Ksef, XRechnung, Factur-X)
https://whois.eurid.eu/en/search/?domain=only-eu
MX points to route1.mx.cloudflare.net as well.
they should use their own product before giving others advice.
And is built with Astro, which was created by an American, existed as an American company, and then was absorbed by Cloudflare.
> Europe does it Better.
> Europe does it Safer.
> Europe does it Greener.
> Europe does it Fairer.
> Europe does it Private.
> Europe does it Stronger.
Unfortunately I think it's mostly just a meme at this point.
It's about decentralization, always has been.
"Any suggestions? Sign up for an account to suggest changes or new products."
(granted: what on earth do i need an account for, that can't be done with a form or an email?)
EuRopE dOeS iT BeTtEr.
Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy.
Source: https://www.sambent.com/proton-meet-isnt-what-they-told-you/
That's a marketing slogan, not anything that is in the culture.
> This superiority complex needs to stop.
It exists in the US, though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americanism_(ideology)
There's one person in the world currently setting the example, with every single verbal or textual utterance.
This website ain't hurting anyone. Good on them, keep it up.
All this to say: I wouldn't stress about it too much. In the consumer space the best usually does win, and people will simply vote with their feet.
It was like this with capitalism. But we live in an era of Technofeudalism, where it's not the case anymore.
The specific reason why they want to operate under Panama law is that there's no mandatory data retention.
So it seems misguided to claim that purely-EU-based alternatives to NordVPN are 'safer' and 'more private' than Nord due to the location alone.
It might feel performative to some people, but Europe just doesn’t trust the US, and arguably shouldn’t. So it’s not about demonstrating superiority in software, but rather showing that there are alternatives you can choose if you want to.
In fact, the domain "only-eu.eu" and the title, "European" are contradictory. Belarus and most population of Russia are unquestionable European, but not EU and clearly not something the author of this website would endorse.
For that matter, Hungary is both Europe and EU, but very likely not politically favorable by the author either. Does that make it not count as buying EU? On the other hand, I assume you support buying from Iceland and Norway, which are not EU (but are EEA and politically aligned). And of course, the biggest question is whether or not the UK counts as "buying European" -- it is not EU and arguably anti-EU but geographically European and aligned in being anti-Russia.
Also the website is impractical, it simply groups brands vs brands without much detail.
So you want most of the internet controlled by US? I'm not exactly keen on giving my info to a foreign country when I can pick something in the EU
> European gov'ts are full of ideas about backdooring,
America has an ongoing scandal about surveillance cameras
Your own rights and consumer interests are absent in your mental model where the internet is a sort of transatlantic battle (which it isn't) where as good peasants we must support our overlords against their high chieftains. The only logical outcome of accepting it is farther segmentation of the internet into Russia/Iran/China-style separate networks, all of them comparably restrictive. in fact, you are deeply interested in presence of competing options, including competition of jurisdictions. Cause wrt rights reality is that Eastern side of the pond can be better in some areas, and worse in others. So you better choose providers judging them by the value (counting limits they are bound by their jurisdictions).
Also such frame of mind is destructive for the EU foundations itself cause why shouldn't then a Frenchman be obliged to choose French over German? European identity is a shaky thing.
>America has an ongoing scandal about surveillance cameras
Sorry I'm not going to disregard a possibility of outlawing of e2e because there's a scandal in the US.
Another funny thing is that they offer as an alternatives China produced phones (most "Nokia" models that does not have anything to do with original Nokia brand), as if supporting Xi regime was somehow better than buying in USA.
LibeOffice as a replacement for Office365 only shows that the site authors does not know what is Office365.
Vivaldi is great, I am using it, but it is built on Chromium, which is definitely not an European thingy...
This is especially true for offers that are content-related. Claiming that RTL+ is anywhere NEAR Netflix is insulting. I love GOG, but the library and ease-of-use of Steam is unmatched (to the point that half of my GOG library does no longer run on the hardware I own because apparently they don't keep updates in mind.)
"View all →" the messy header
the signs are all there
Klarna has nothing in common with Paypal, bare metal hosting is not at all an alternative to AWS, PeerTube has nothing in common with Netflix, etc.
In Europe I like Migadu.
Even if you might trust other products of Proton, it certainly raises a suspicion/an eyebrow.
Microsoft Windows has no alternatives.
Apache, bind, no alternatives.
I guess there is still work to do.
https://only-eu.eu/en/categories/foto-backup/ente-photos/
Also, their LinkedIn page shows that their HQ is Dover, Delaware, USA: https://www.linkedin.com/company/ente-com/about/
https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/ente-technologies
Which is interesting.
I just made my own invoice generator using a json spec and a HTML -> PDF pipeline that wasn't so simple to get going. I might use this!
Is it? In my (EU) country there is basically a list of things the invoice must show, without any strict template, even if they converge on very similar designs in the end. Basically to allow branding and alleviate physical -> digital transition struggles.
In the beginning the most popular "invoicing" software was Excel :D
Starting in April 2026, e-invoices are mandatory in Poland, that’s why I’m rushing to add support now =)
1. The US becoming relatively hostile even to countries that considered themselves allies means that being totally dependent on US monopolies (the TooBigTech crew) is a problem. So the first level is "it's important to reduce the dependency to US services". Doesn't matter if it's in the EU, Canada or Mexico.
2. When you start caring about digital sovereignty, or course it's better if you can depend on national services. But that's often not possible. The next best thing is to rely on allies, and diversify the risk.
So it's a gradient. What has taken off is "we need to care about digital sovereignty" and "the US has already used their monopolies against us, we need to do something about it". I think.
I for one want Pravetz cloud
Or you consider them to be EU-Panama which to try to protect user privacy – then why are they on this list?
No wonder us Europeans get laughed at when it comes to speed and execution.
Feels kinda like the thumbs on the scales resulted in the (d)evolution towards techno-feudalism.
In their denfese, they came up with the system before 2013. But I think it should be time for the EU to step in and force a unified system across the Union (e.g. UBL / CII).
Show the world map to a child and one would have a difficult time explaining the idea of continents when they finally come to Europe and Asia.
If not, maybe going to school would help?
(the “angry” comments are so tiring)
My opinion is therefore that this amount of effort is not nearly enough to hold our discussion here.
In this case it isn’t even clear where the hypocrisy comes from, though. It’s a service for looking up other services. Does it even handle any PII?