A whole civilization might die tonight(nbcnews.com) |
A whole civilization might die tonight(nbcnews.com) |
What is more likely to happen is just as bad. Devastating civil infrastructure would put 10s of millions of lives at risk.
And even if one were to look at this from a myopic USA centric lens, has anyone considered how many of these people we were told needed liberation are now radicalized against us?
the marginal cost for him is unfortunately not that high at this point
"Iran has closed all diplomatic and indirect channels of communication with the United States, the state-run Tehran Times reported ..." US media does not seem to have picked up on this, but media in India and China have.[2] But the common source seems to be "Tehran Times", and it's unclear who runs that or where they get their info. New York Times, AP, and AlJazeera are not saying that. Xinhua has a one-line note with no source. The US White House says Vance is talking to somebody. Politico says Vance is on "standby".[3]
A negotiated cease-fire seems unlikely now.
[1] https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2026/4/7/iran-war-li...
[2] https://www.the-independent.com/bulletin/news/iran-mediators...
[3] https://www.politico.com/news/2026/04/06/vance-is-on-standby...
The US is functioning as a banana republic style totalitarian regime for a few years. Even Venezuela has a tougher opposition.
I can't think of anything other than going out and standing on a street with a placard. can we do anything better than that?
What precisely are you doing other than posting stuff that pretends that a party in minority in both houses of Congress could actually stop a president, unless some politicians in the majority chose to join them.
And, as underwhelming as the press are, the facts are that surveys show that American's broadly disapprove of the war. Presumably because of what they have learned about it from the press and the opposition.
The people who are responsible are the people in power and their remaining supporters. Aided, arguably, by people who espouse cynical, self-soothing complaints that ignore what most people learn about civics in middle school.
Also are you going to ignore the propaganda pushed by the press leading up to the initial attack? Or that they are still breathlessly parroting propaganda and self censoring right now?
The entire ruling class is responsible for this. The military carrying it out is responsible for it. Anyone in positions of power that have done nothing to stop this but post some strongly worded tweets is responsible.
And the press has been covering Trump's rhetoric and the war pretty heavily.
> And the press has been covering Trump's rhetoric and the war pretty heavily.
They literally bought the presidency for Trump.
If you are, here's some useful info:
Every city in the United States has what could be categorized as a standing army in the form of a police force. They are ready and highly trained to violently stop civil unrest.
The police force deploys sophisticated technology and dragnet methodology to track and build profiles on all citizens that attend protests.
Similarly, the media and status quo is captured so thoroughly that all forms of mass protest appear eventually degenerate into lawless havoc to onlookers, which perpetuates a cycle of violence.
The state has no problem in engaging in mass arrests. And when the cultural moment has moved on, individuals are stuck fighting extreme charges and face having to make the difficult choice of pleaing out to resume what semblance of life remains. And if you want to fight, risk facing some of the most inhumane conditions in the developed world by spending some time in a federal prison.
So, "where is the entire US population?"
Mostly surviving and scared.
The ruling class has us just where they want us -- so focused on & fearful of losing our little jobs that we don't have context around much else so that we can do a thoughtful job of performing as an electorate. This is how you elect a Donald Trump, as THEY have now learned.
It says: "A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again."
Will. Not might.
Bizarre wording from this website. 90% of Jews in Iran left after the Islamic fundamentalists took over.
Iran's regime threatens to make life in the middle east essentially impossible:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/23/iran-threat-to...
Iran's regime threatens to kill every Iranian they can "before giving Iran back to Iranians":
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/01/16/no-sign-of-new-prot...
Even those who don't care about innocent lives recognize the horrible consequences for everyone else:
- Iran empowered to tax the strait of Hormuz indefinitely with high insurance
- Russia empowered with access to the middle east since the Iranians will have to embrace their only ally
Trump enablers are responsible.
Fucking clown.
Wrong, it turned out. Sometimes bluster isn't bluster. Or perhaps sometimes blusterers back themselves into a corner with their mouth.
I'm sure he'll follow up with bailing the ocean.
It must be due to bad actors.
At the end of the day, pieces of paper are just pieces of paper.
Iran war that would lead to a fucking global economic crisis? Hell no! shut up Bibi!
That's in a gist the difference between the Democrats and the entity who call themselves the Republican party nowadays.
Think of it this way: Iran is isolated on the world stage. But turn it into a significant enough victim and there will be two major religions on either side of a war. That's a recipe for something that could potentially make WWII look 'mild'. I know there are people that actually want this, but let's at least see clearly here: nobody, and I mean absolutely nobody will benefit from that. Even the ones who think they will benefit. Democrats that are supportive of this are hopefully a small enough minority that sanity will prevail.
Think avalanche: you can start one, but you can't stop one. Avalanches stop themselves, but only when all potential energy is expended.
What I mean by Israel's war is that the motivation was Israel's, they got Americans to be their grunts.
I don't see this de-escalating soon unless Europe shows more teeth.
It's pretty much nightmare fuel out there.
And still every day it continues, it becomes a little bit harder to back out. Like Vietnam, Iraq or Afghanistan this war cannot be won.
There is one last test, but it's not until November. Until then, Trump is on a speed run to destroy everything he can
So how do you propose this strike happen?
Can you describe what you have in mind?
Europe's more belligerent opposition as opposed toothless diplomatic speeches may give them a reason to pause. Say, cancellations of major contracts where the primary beneficiary would have been the US.
Don't know whether it will happen, but am happy to see some European countries to take a stand and back their stand with more than words.
Third. Even if our gerontocrat had a saner mind, I doubt he would be able to control Israel. Let them alone fighting Iran, with their missile defense depleted leting Iranian missiles rain down everywhere, Bibi would surely nuke Tehran and the Yemen, so I don't even think there's a way out of this.
When one day the dust settles, hopefully of the benign kind, I wish some lessons to be learned on what kind of leaders to elect.
This has had me so disturbed, that I have barely been able to get much work done for weeks. Work that I enjoy doing. Then I think of Iranian citizens and feel guilty about complaining.