This stuff is also why the EU doesn't want the app to run on rooted devices. I don't believe there's a way to pass Strong Integrity yet, as the app doesn't support the hackable Android 8 software attestation.
Although, hardware attestation should be available for Android 8+. Only older Android versions can be spoofed.
You can still get strong integrity, but [as the docs state](https://developer.android.com/google/play/integrity/verdicts):
> On Android 12 and lower, the MEETS_STRONG_INTEGRITY verdict only requires hardware-backed proof of boot integrity and does not require the device to have a recent security update. Therefore, when using the MEETS_STRONG_INTEGRITY, it is recommended to also take into account the Android SDK version in the deviceAttributes field.
I would argue the EU doesn't want to run it on rooted devices because malware could violate the security sandbox and intercept information. This is largely the same reason why Google Pay requires SafetyNet.
Where does the EU say so?
Wow.
And then this person says the pin shouldn't be encrypted (but I bet if this was otherwise they would be complaining as well)
I think scrutiny over the apps are fine, but treating every issue with the same brush is not
> this product will be the catalyst for an enormous breach at some point
Breach of what exactly is not clear since most information never leaves the phone
But more importantly, it's not being deleted from your phone. You know, your phone with all of your other photos
Yes it should be fixed, but this "all of nothing" approach to security is just counter-productive
so the problem of bypassing age verification by hacking saved files doesn't arise at all!
/s
Why/how would this be a bad thing?
If not, what is the difference between those controls and having to be a certain age to enter porn sites?
Genuinely curious. To me, the primary objection to the online controls has been the implementations. The EU implementation will be[1] even better than the strip club, where the bouncer sees your ID and can remember it, when they move to zero-knowledge proofs.
[1]: https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/news/commission-rel...
You can't compare someone checking your document before entering a strip club (or even a pub, or asking for alcoholic drinks) vs a computer system getting and logging an attestation and verifying it against a government database (or third party) where the Govt knows who the credential belongs to, and who's checking it. Along with my government "compelling me" to run software (even if it's open source itself) that requires me to have a binding contract with a foreign third-party company known for privacy violations, and running their proprietary software stack on my device for said government software to work, so I can participate in most parts of the digital society.
Of course the existing "identity verification" done by scanning yourself and your ID document (passport, national ID or driving licence) is not acceptable, unless counted exceptions where said documentation is needed (banking and others, because of KYC/AML)
Secondly, it's the dumbest comparison anyone could possibly make.
The difference with a porn website is as follows:
- the age check on porn sites are notoriously dumb and useless, it's literally a meme. It was a meme before there were memes.
- I choose to go on porn sites. It's not exactly a requirement that I get access to a porn site. Access to my OS on my device to work, have fun or do whatever I want privately is kind of a lot more necessary.
"Zero knowledge proof". Yeah OK. I've got a few dozen bridges to sell you. Interested?
That at least explains a fair bit.
> the age check on porn sites are notoriously dumb and useless
That they have been useless is hardly an argument that's relevant to the current discussion.
> I choose to go on porn sites. It's not exactly a requirement that I get access to a porn site.
Indeed.
> Access to my OS on my device to work, have fun or do whatever I want privately is kind of a lot more necessary.
Sure, but that is an entirely different discussion.
Anyway, if you had some actual substance to your flippant dismissal it could perhaps lead to some interesting discussion.