Meta employees are up in arms over a mandatory program to train AI on their(businessinsider.com) |
Meta employees are up in arms over a mandatory program to train AI on their(businessinsider.com) |
One may argue that salaries are lower and there are less opportunities in tech in those countries - because of stronger regulation - but I think the layoffs procedures are objectively much more favorable for employees.
ITUC Global Rights Index (2025)
Europe: 2.78 Nordics: 1.0–1.2 Western Europe: 2.0–2.3
Americas: 3.68 United States: 4
I couldn’t find per state US numbers but the difference is obviously huge.
No. They happen, but with a significant difference
> It also says it only applies to computers, not to employees' phones.
What a great motivator for employees to stop using their work computers.
Does anyone know how many Meta employees use a computer, and what fraction of their work they do on it? It cannot be that much, surely.
Meta employees are up in arms over a mandatory program to train AI on their _______
Pets?
Hairstyles?
tolerance for abuse.
I'd have gone with "Meta employees up in arms over mandatory program to train AI on their keystrokes".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus:_The_Forbin_Project
p.s. was just reading the wiki plot summary and lol'ing at this bit: "Colossus has the responsible programmers summarily executed outside their workplace, left laying 24 hours, and cremated. Colossus also names their replacements. " -- karma is a bitch, indeed.
I would bang my head against the wall if they either didn’t make a stink or publicly said that, of course the Company is going to monitor me, it’s their hardware[1] and who am I to be anything but a vessel for my employer on Company time etc.
[1] As seen in the comments on the large thread about this https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47851948
> very few facebook employees use their products outside of testing, which is a big contributor to that fear - they just can't believe that there are billions of people who would continue to use apps to post what they had for lunch!
> And as a result of that lack of faith, most of them believe that Meta is a bubble and can burst at any point. Consequently, everyone works for the next performance review cycle, and most are just in rush to capture as much money as they could before that bubble bursts.
But I hope they successfully push back against it. I don’t want this kind of behavior normalized.
> 'I never thought leopards would eat MY face,' sobs woman who voted for the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party.
Of course this is not ok, but you should really quit your job if you have ethical or moral problems with that.
At some point in the future, a lot of the SV techbros will be hopefully viewed as ghouls with no morals or ethics. This is not a subsection of humanity that should be dictating anything and yet they always do. If you complain about this and don't quit your job at Meta, you're failing an extremely basic check.
I hope you are right, though it will still take a long time, if it ever happens. The base premises of most people is still something along the lines of: Has money -> must be successful -> is smarter than most -> is right and cannot be wrong.
This kind of shortcircuited thinking is superbly annoying and harms us and the planet and every living being on it. I still remember clearly, when I explained to a Facebook fanperson, that FB is a criminal organization, just after they had to pay the highest fines ever for violating people's privacy. Despite the plain facts in front of them they chose not to believe me, because who am I, right? Just an IT person, who cannot possibly know shit, since I am not as rich and famous as Zucky the android.
Interesting phrasing. So which subsection of humanity you think should be dictating something?
Is there a reason you didn't go with
> No subsection of humanity should be dictating anything and yet these techbros always do.
You don't have to provide a perfect solution to point out something is wrong. People who don't care about the people they lead don't make good leaders. I'd rather have leaders who hurt others by accident than on purpose.
Half the big tech world is economically built on mass scale invasive unwanted tracking & adtech. If it goes up in flames from internal tension about invasive tracking that's just karma
Karma’s a b*tch, innit?
> "This makes me super uncomfortable. How do we opt out?"
>> Opt-out is as simple as sending in your resignation to your manager.
> I can't hear you over the sound of the millions I'm making at Meta.
Not only were they getting paid, slavery in the Roman Empire involved a bidirectional responsibility. In times of economic hardship and downturn, the owner was required to look after the slave. No kicking to the curb allowed.
Slaves were able to buy themselves out and the list of former slaves who became magnates and even politically influential at the highest level was indeed long and packed with names.
Being a slave was not considered dishonorable or lowly and the power dynamic was not based on notions of inherent ethnic based superiority. Not that the Romans weren’t plenty racist — they were. They also knew what a category error is and were not wont to induce it in themselves. Perhaps they had standards where intellectual rigor is concerned.
The ugly American version of slavery really did a number on people’s understanding of the institution. When we look at the current boardroom and C-suite “elites” and how they were often literally handed their business by the established power structures (Google and the CIA VC fund; DARPA and “lifelog” into Facebook etc), you can’t help but get the feeling that in our wage slavery society social mobility options are worse than Roman era slaves could avail themselves of.
Keen study of history is the only thing that can halt the slide of citizenry into universal and absolute ignorance. Given that Joe Schmoe no longer reads anything longer than a reel caption and even Ignatius Intellectual often maxes out at a blog post, I’d say the slide is well and truly lubed up.
Everyone working at Meta has more options than almost anyone else.
Stop blaming the working class. We need jobs to pay our bills. Regulate capital, force them to follow the law, force them to be ethical, and use all the force of the state for doing so.
To blame employees for the capital behavior is absurd and solves nothing. Put the high up decision makers in prison. Punish the real criminals and we will get back our privacy and our rights.
Somebody making 300-500k+ yearly is hardly working class, in same way bezos or zuckenberg are not working class yet they do spend some time working on their businesses.
We all make our choices in our lives and shape it accordingly, at least have a pair and own your decisions.
Is there any point where a person stops being working class? Can I be chauffeur-driven to the opera in my gold-plated Lamborghini and still call myself working class?
Being ethical is hard, but it's not an excuse. Yes, I judge people that work for FAANG, I judge colleagues for extensively rely on LLMs, and Big Corps for that matter.
> Regulate capital
How? Oh, right, by not using these products or working for the mentioned companies.
It's so easy to shift blame on other's and mark it as "not my problem lol"
"Here's your shit sandwich."
"I don't want a shit sandwich!"
I don't have to know what I do want to eat to decline the shit sandwich.
No and you are being intentionally obtuse for some reason.
I don't say that it is "not my problem". It is. That is why Facebook is guilty and high level decision makers should be held accountable by the law.
We need to make it happen. Until CEOs and the like are in prison we are failing society.
They are using a divide an conquer strategy. By splitting the working class they want to weak our ability to resist capital.
There is no logic to their argument just lies to fulfill their goal.
Just halfway seems low. But this is Silicon Valley News after all.