My ASUS 1215B survived from 2009 up to 2024, with multiple Ubuntu LTS updates, HDD replaced with SDD and eventually maxed out to 8 GB.
IF Dell, Asus, Lenovo et all started selling on regular computer stores what is only available to computer nerds on their online stores, this would be much more noticeable.
As it is, normies walk into a store and get to chose between Windows, macOS, Chromebooks, iPad Pro or Android DEX/HyperOS Workstation/....
You can't repair macs easily, but they last long enough for that to not be an issue. and honestly, the apple care experience is ideal for most people.
I do hope then that they stick to the tech-enthusiast market perfecting Linux-friendly laptops. The laptop market hasn't learned from framework's success, so I was hoping at the wake of the neo's success, someone could prove a similar quality laptop is possible by a non-apple company, keeping the competition alive.
My biggest concern for them is, one of these bigger laptop makers panic because of losses from the neo, and takes over framework.
Then you get the nerds that get Apple because "I know this, it is UNIX!", when in reality what they wanted was GNU/Linux, and then complain all the time it isn't, because they skipped the class where UNIX, POSIX and all differences throught history were explained.
It looks like theyre selling more laptops than they expected to, not less.
Their laptops are niche, but that niche seems to be growing quite nicely. There's a big cultural wave of frustration with Big Tech companies and their rent-seeking practices, and Framework is doing a good job of riding this wave.
Your concern about their being bought out is unfounded. They're not a publicly traded company and dont need to sell equity to anyone if they dont want to.
The whole point of the Framework is that it's your "final" laptop. Just buy it once, and upgrade whatever part you wish as and when you want to. For instance, folks who got the original Framwork 5 years ago can still buy the latest mainboard or chassis and keep using the rest of their gear, if they wanted to.
Of course, most people don't care about all that these days. Heck, most people don't even care about owning a computer, since smartphones have taken over.
No it isnt, not by a long shot! Only if you buy the basic entry level version (DIY) without any RAM, storage, ports or a charger. At which point we arent remotely talking about the same thing anymore!
All the firmware updates are installed, there's nothing concerning in the logs.
Weak and laughable. Not even a few years old xps13s with hundreds cycles are this bad.
For office work, fine, plenty of horsepower, easy to fix, but not for private use at this point.
The last thread on framework was disappointing in how many said "oh, if it just had X I'd totally buy it" who probably all use Mac's with it's basic configuration.
https://community.frame.work/t/feasibility-of-diy-intel-me-n...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_Platform_Security_Processo...
Not to pooh-pooh their success! Just my initial reaction to this headline was that it's a bit misleading/silly.
Framework isn't as mass market as your typical laptop competitors. You can make an assumption a purchaser of framework is tech minded / informed shopper.
You can also see their prebuilt option is Windows only.
When going DIY, adding Windows is between $225 and $339 depending on edition.
Most informed shoppers and techheads also know you can go to key selling websites and get completely legal and working Windows keys for <$20.
Why would people volunteer to pay 1000% more?
The last few I've seen on G2A were phished/stolen bizspark or similar accounts and bulk "reclaimed". I would imagine most keyshops are similar.
get completely legal and working Windows keys for <$20
I didn't do "advanced install" of anything on my previous Dell XPS (which was bad for other reasons) but my battery could easily hold 4+ days.
Also I don't need (S4) hibernation, I'm talking about standby (I meant S3, "save to ram").
Secondly, Apple Products seem specifically engineered to easily break catastrophically (see SSD power supply below speaker grill, zapping the NAND modules if liquid enters the conveniently placed holes. Or a loose metal plate slicing a crucial ribbon cable when the phone was dropped. And many more such cases
This mix of overly fragile design and ridiculously expensive first-party repairs combined with parts pairing and the resulting inability of third-party, non-apple-certified repair shops to level the playing field is what I call a scam.
(£545 with the device with ports, £80 for the ram £50 for the SSD.)
Here a comparable configuration to the neo is close to 800€!
Sure, they could have thought it'd only sell a tiny number of units, but if they thought that, they wouldnt have launched the product.
Im happy for them
Hate to be contrarian here but this is a known marketing trick to make product appear as selling faster than it does to create hype. I'm sure you waited in line to a club/bar for 30 minutes only to realize club/bar was empty?
They are still a for-profit company and I totally expect those batches' shipping times to actually reduce soon. An order placed right now would ship in August and at this point it must be cutting into their earnings because any regular, walk-in type of customer is not gonna wait this long for their laptop.
> 'No, we won't sell you our most expensive new laptop config at all, and if you want the other cheaper configs, you will need to wait at a minimum until August'
is not a very effective marketing stunt.
Besides, Framework has a very consistent history at this point of quite frank, open communication. If they didn't have this history, I might lend more credence to your point of view, but my experience is that these are people that are pretty allergic to that sort of bullshit, and will just say what they mean.
I really can't imagine why they'd try and undermine that reputation just to counterproductively tell people they can't buy a laptop from them.
The fact that they're selling incredibly well is a testament to that.
Actually I would like to see some numbers for how much they are flying off the shelves in countries where they are priced 700 - 800 euros.
We'll find out more during quarterly earnings at the end of the month.
https://www.macrumors.com/2026/04/16/macbook-neo-demand-surg...