Six years perfecting maps on watchOS(david-smith.org) |
Six years perfecting maps on watchOS(david-smith.org) |
As an aside there's a screenshot in the article showing the Hidden Valley at Glen Coe, which happens to be one of my favourite short walks in Scotland.
A less happy aside of that aside is the house at the base of the valley. I used to look at it dreamily as we drove past, always closed up, nestled by itself in a remote nook between the mountains. What an extraordinary place it would be to live. The park for the hike was only a couple of hundred metres up the road. A few years later I recognised the house in a Louis Theroux doco, when he travelled there with its owner - TV personality Jimmy Saville. Wow. And then a few years later again, after I'd returned to Australia, it came out, posthumous, that Saville was one of the UK's most prolific child and sexual predators. Horrific stuff. The name and outline of the cottage structure can actually be seen at the top of the map in the screenshot.
And as a further coincidence, I met Jimmy Saville about 25 years ago. I was in Leeds hospital after a heart operation, and this old and somewhat scruffy track suited guy just walks in to the ward and starts talking to me. I had no idea who he was. After he left, a nurse asked “did you speak to Jimmy?”. It was creepy and unnerving seeing first hand how he just got to roam around.
I can confirm, the graffiti-covered Saville residence has almost completely been demolished.
So unlike Apple Maps, which is dynamically rendered, it basically shows image tiles. It allows for a nicer-looking, more detailed map, but affects things like needing separate downloads for different zoom levels, rotation, updatability.
His original map provider offers both vector and raster tile services: https://www.thunderforest.com/maps/outdoors/
A common pattern is to use a vector tile service + style definition directly or to generate raster tiles if those are desired.
For example https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_style
However, you're also kind of correct in that the rendered tiles are typically cached server-side (presumably also for Apple Maps).
After a few retries it put me on a 2 hour timeout.
I had to get back to my room. I knew the way back on foot well enough, about 30 minutes away, but I wanted to take a look at the map anyway.
I thought I'd try it on my Apple Watch Ultra 3. It was a few months ago so it was the latest OS.
There were a few bugs in trying to do that simple task, like when typing out the name of a location the keyboard kept disappearing as if the UI was crashing or something.
I sighed, muttered a few curses at the state of things and the people in charge who let it get this way, and lowered my wrist and just enjoyed the stroll.
Like so many things in Apple software since the past 5 or so years, so much shit just doesn't work when you REALLY need it. F'n hell
Certainly not going to hold my wrist up to my mouth on a noisy street and yell at my watch until it gets the names of foreign streets right lol
About the map itself, here's a comparison with our own base style on the location in Scotland of the last capture.
Normal style : https://cartes.app/#16.13/57.290344/-6.171279 Outdoor style : https://cartes.app/?style=outdoors&terrain=oui#16.13/57.2903...
It's interesting to see the wide variations that can be designed. May styling is choosing between an infinity of possibilities !
The 8 is the version number that launched yesterday with this feature
But it was not possible from the app store page itself. Have a look, how confusing it is:
https://mastodon.gamedev.place/@ndr/116483475865871622
It shows a lot of price points from 1€ all up to 45€ without saying if its a subscription or a one-time payment.
Maybe the author should include the pricing clearly somewhere else on the app store page as apple is not able to do so.
edit: spelling
And there is no way for the app to mark "this is the current pricing".
What could be the reason that Apple designed it this way? The only reason I can think of is customer protection (say 1€ a month changes to 100€ a month and you user does not pay attention).
The map tracking features cost $29.95 a year.
The premium yearly subscription has 3 price points shown (22.99, 34.99 and 44.99€) - I feel really bad for the developer as their customers are reminded that they have to pay more than others have paid before. I don't get why Apple is showing the old prices.
Yet the app is published and has a great App Store review score of 4.8 with 170k+ reviews, and same score with 35k+ reviews for the Watch.
How does the author get feedback and respond to other customers? Or is this simply scratching one's own itch demonstrating its usefulness for others once again?
It’s a lifestyle device after all but still
I’m surprised to hear people at Apple work on this because surely they must encounter this issue.
If this guys maps can somehow take the screen and hold it, I think he’s got a killer feature for me. Though I glanced at the App Store page and it wasn’t clear to me which features are subscription gated and which ones aren’t and I despise apps that won’t tell me till I’ve set everything up (it just feels so frustrating that it wasn’t clear ahead of time) so I’ll probably just endure and try to remember to start a workout manually so it won’t take over.
Google Maps on the iPhone has a similar problem where a banner notification can block the section at the top that shows the next turn. If it's persistent (e.g., a calendar reminder), you have to try to swipe it away while driving without clicking on it by mistake. I guarantee multiple people have crashed because of this.
Whoever at Apple thinks that anything at all should override navigation for more than a couple of seconds without explicit user action is an idiot.
BTW, that last line about hiring/commissioning a cartographer, very rad and cool :~)
I remember a time when Apple was chided for integrating functionalities of popular apps into its OS.
Apple created an incredibly awesome device, and its up to the market to make full use of its potential. Why would it be a failure for Apple to not make such an app?
Also Garmin's own maps are based on OpenStreetMap and have become pretty good.
Also worth mentioning (probably the same with Coros) that these are offline maps, so they always work, and you typically install them for a whole continent.
I regularly use hiking and topography maps on my Apple Watch with the first party maps app, so it sure what you’re talking about
Where they fall short though, the App Store is right there. There’s almost always a better alternative for those who value having something better.
This would presumably transfer the need to host map data back to the author, which would represent an ongoing cost, and therefore maybe justify a modest subscription?
I wish Apple would see that opening up their platforms actually leads to a better core OS as Apple borrows/steals from the community.
In practise, this doesn’t work out as visually pleasing as you’d like; labels repeat, or render partially or not at all, or become interfered with by other labels, or only work well at one given zoom. It’s easy to end up in a visually dissatisfying place that’s taking an unfathomable number of magic rules to get to.
The secret sauce to fixing this is creating separate label layers of perfect point locations or lines for labels to follow in advance. Added bonus is faster render and interaction times due to fewer rules.
If you can't decide for 10 years what you want from a calculator app, then it took you 10 years to make one, regardless if writing the app was only 2 weeks coding effort and 9,6 years of deciding.
Didn't know Apple has so many astro-turfers here.
That alternative comes with a $60/year subscription these days, though.
There are two apps I pay for that replace an app on my phone: $15/year for Overcast replaces Apple Podcasts and & $25/year for Transit replacing the transit function in Apple Maps (which I may be able to drop now that I’m on Google Maps, but I haven’t tried yet, and the app is so damn good I’m not sure I want to). Those are easily two of the absolute best and most used apps on my phone.
But if you don’t want to spend money on another vendor, or there is nothing suitable for the price you want to pay, at least the phone often has something serviceable.
It also preserves ordering when moving things (hence my snowplow approach).
Soon it'll summarize what you did that day so you can feel good about what you get done - that's coming shortly, I'm testing the feature for another few days.
There are a bunch of settings to tweak this - picking what reminder lists to include, setting a time window for when it'll reschedule things, etc.
This should link to it:
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/reminder-wrangler/id6759400510
Instead of: let me buy this app for a few bucks and give it a spin, its now: even if I like this app, do I want to pay for it a few bucks a month for forever?
In that light, I may be hard pressed to call it a debacle, but it’s still third-rate.
Currently I'm using Garmin's version of OpenStreetMap + an overlay for the Dutch cycle path network [1] on my watch.
[1] If you are in the Netherlands, this is a gem: https://planner.gps.nl/download.php?toolid=1 . Download the device version, copy it to your Garmin gpsr or Watch and you have a very nice overlay of the cycle network with nodes (knooppunten), etc.
https://www.macrumors.com/2026/04/24/apple-maps-ads-what-to-...
How to advertise in Google Maps
Not sure how that isn't a debacle:
"The product wasn’t ready," Cook, who will step down as CEO in September, said during an Apple town hall on April 21, Bloomberg reported. "We apologized for it and we said, 'Go use these other apps. They're better than ours.' And that was a humble pie. But it was the right thing for our users."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2026/04/24/tim-cook...
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-04-22/tim-cook-...
(Bloomberg site paywalled, so used a non-paywalled source quoting Bloomberg)
Only reason to use Google nowadays for me is travel in countries where neither Apple nor OSM have good coverage.
Edit to add: throwing out a price like that made me go check to see what they actually charge, and either Apple's presentation of in-app purchases or their use of it is sad: it gives the same "premium" item like eight times, with different prices. Maybe that's per month and then longer periods with bulk discounts? Maybe they have a lifetime option for $40? If I were a regular hiker, I'd go for that.
So I wouldn't say it's a failure that they don't do that even more often.
That said, I'd love to see them take an approach unstable API release that requires the app to show a warning like "This app relies on unfinished features that may change or stop working entirely in the future, requiring the seller to release an apo update." and require them to launch it as a free preview, make it refundable during this period, etc.
iOS 7 was released in 2013. 13 years ago, aeons in tech land.
So "APIs are hard to get right the first time. I could see why they wouldn't want to release one until they've dogfooded and refined it." is crap. They're hoarding private API access purely for competitive advantage in services.
2) This is a solved problem. You throw a “this is an experimental API, it’s interface may change”
PS. I typed this under my desk!
I also have an Apple Watch Ultra. My feeling has always been that Apple Watch Ultra is a smartwatch first, sports watch second. Garmin watches are sports watches first, smartwatch second.
I was an early adopter of smartwatches with first the Moto 360 and then Apple Watch Series 1 and I have found that I use the smartwatch part less and less. In the end I only used it for notifications for two apps (Signal and WhatsApp), sometimes for calling my wife when I'm on a bike, and contactless payments. These I can do with a Garmin as well, but it far less clumsy as a sports watch than Apple Watch.
Plus Garmin Watches generally work with GadgetBridge, so they are much easier to use in a privacy-preserving way.
I'm curious because I'm also interested in hacking the Reminders app via its API, to add some features in a side app