Pilots Shut Off Both Engines Before China Eastern 737 Crash

SilverElfin 14 days ago |

I guess Boeing doesn’t have leverage over China to force them to cooperate with the investigation? They need the China business as much as China needs their planes?

qsi 14 days ago | |

I don't think it is because of the business aspect; Boeing in any investigation won't have leverage as the investigations are run by the local equivalents on the NTSB. To the extent there is any leverage, it's the NTSB that might have it, but it would be informal. The Chinese government is stonewalling this because they deem it politically inconvenient/embarrassing that they had a pilot suicide/murder take place. For instance see also https://admiralcloudberg.medium.com/the-crash-of-egyptair-fl... for the story of EgyptAir 990.

seanmcdirmid 14 days ago |

This is a good reminder that, for all the progress china has made, it still has issues to work through.

bell-cot 14 days ago | |

If you're referring to the seeming sabotage by the aircrew, that can happen in any nation.

If you're referring to the seeming suppression of embarrassing conclusions by the Chinese government, that is working as they feel it should.

stogot 14 days ago | | |

China government is stonewalling the safety report:

> And then they went silent. International standards require a final report as soon as possible – and, if more than 12 months, annual interim statements. They have not provided updates in over two yeras.

seanmcdirmid 14 days ago | | |

Number 2, it won't work in the long run, eventually they will have their Korean Air moment and go fuller in on transparency and modern crew resource management.

bell-cot 14 days ago | | |

Possibly.

Or, it's also possible that they will continue a "case-by-case, only so far as it serves our interests" buffet-restaurant policy. Choosing Western ideals and practices can carry non-trivial political costs in China.

seanmcdirmid 14 days ago | | |

Definitely. I just don’t think it will work for them that well and it will force a change later. Especially when they start really selling their own planes internationally and want to make the world have confidence in them.

saargrin 14 days ago |

why does cutting off power to an engine cut off power to the recorder? i thought these had standalone power

xvxvx 14 days ago |

I get all my plane crash information from anime avatar twitter accounts being quoted in a blog filled with typos.

Sabinus 13 days ago | |

All the data the twitter poster is referring came from the FOI request to the US government from a brave Chinese citizen. You can read the original reports here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:NTSB_DC...

Glawen 13 days ago | |

Using a russian swear word as name