Incident with Pull Requests, Issues, Git Operations and API Requests(githubstatus.com) |
Incident with Pull Requests, Issues, Git Operations and API Requests(githubstatus.com) |
Normally I defend GH in the comments of these incidents but it’s been an impressively bad month by their standards, even when you filter for critical components filter out sev-2’s and 3’s.
The user profile / contributions and PR UX is pretty much the entire "hub" product since git is a fully separate offline app.
Is it? Seems a text description of "Make a website outlining 'How cooked GitHub' is with a modern style" to basically any LLM would produce exactly that UI and design, literally nothing of that design a human had any influence on, besides the ones selecting what training data the used LLMs was trained with.
I think most of us who've tried using LLMs for web-design can recognize that style and design at this point, regardless of model actually used.
Moving everything from GitHub to Forgejo and Tangled for now. These outages haven’t effected me for the past month because of this.
Most part screen is taken by picture. Contrast ratio is really low. Hard to read Should they remove that useless banner, current status which is the most interesting part coud've been made visible right away.
I would call this whole thing highly un-ergonomic
People may have had complaints about functionality, features, commercial issues, but the thing used to at least have a decent uptime until recently.
At this point you would get better uptime by just self-hosting your own GitLab, Forgejo or Codeberg instance instead of dealing with Github's unreliablity.
There is no defending them with their clear neglet and carelessness of the platform.
I’m working on an open source Forgejo browser called Joui. It’s coming along nicely, and is so much snappier than GitHub in every single way.
It's the same issue as the other day - display message at the top admitting that cache needs to be refreshed (or whatever the wording was)
I get downtime on Supabase every few weeks. Even Cloudflare. And now Github
No, of course not.
This time they've just scrubbed the evidence outright?
Today's is green, even though there was an outage.
https://mrshu.github.io/github-statuses/
Seems more accurate with my experience of GitHub.
Personally, I think they'd have more luck actually attacking the source, what that might be. Somehow I think Microsoft's push for "Every developer only use AI for development, no manual thinking/coding from now on" is the detrimental step, seemingly many companies are still discovering the right approach. Put a freeze to that, and I'm fairly sure you'd see less downtime pretty much immediately, unless all real engineers already left the company, I'm sure I would have at this point.
If you want to upload to GitHub, you should pay. The days of charitably giving away compute for the “open source communities” are over.
maybe it's time to revert back to the central idea of git & not centralize around a particular provider.
for issues - mailing list will do. you can always slap a beautiful ui if you want to or a tui (as is the fad) these days.
actions can also be decentralized via an API spec & webhooks.
Facepalmed and decided that this is it for today.
Multiple companies are trying to create new versioning primitives/architectures which can handle machine-level code generation - 1 commit per second per repo.
It's like switching from horse buggies to automobiles, the whole worlds needs re-architecturing to handle the new load.
The age of boutique hand-coding is being replaced by the age of industrial software factories.
This is not a particularly novel level of scale. Facebook's mercurial backend had to handle >5,000 developers committing to the singular monorepo long before LLMs were a thing
Is the scaling issue with git or github?
It was just yesterday [0] that GA was down and another incident today? I am convinced that Copilot and Tay.ai are destroying GitHub and there is no CEO of GitHub to contact.
Now will you please self-host as I said 6 years ago? [1]
Has worked wonders for me :)
Gitea (what Forgejo forked from) recently stole the sidebar on repos from GitHub and I think that would be great for Forgejo to steal too…
Forgejo themed by Codeberg: https://codeberg.org/forgejo/forgejo (the codeberg theme is extremely low contrast)
Forgejo default: https://v15.next.forgejo.org/pparaxan/quark
Forgejo themed by Lix: https://git.lix.systems/lix-project/lix
Gitea: https://gitea.com/gitea/awesome-gitea
Gitea themed by Blender: https://projects.blender.org/blender/blender
I personally like Blender’s Gitea theme better than the rest but I guess that’s subjective. In dark mode I do not like the low contrast Codeberg theme or the default Forgejo theme, but all of the instances custom themes look great.
As far as Git forges go in general though.. tangled is very pretty https://tangled.org/tangled.org/core I think more power user oriented software should be comfortable with compact interfaces
Yes, it's still Microsoft, but they've forgotten about it, so it runs entirely adequately and is actually a surprisingly okay github replacement. It does nothing special, but it does do everything, just in a way you often would rather it wouldn't. It doesn't have the flexibility of JIRA for the ticketing, and the deployment machinery doesn't have the fanciness ( and vendor threat ) of chaining github actions, but it does handle both.
I haven't used gitlab, so I'm curious to hear what makes it a "complete mess" too.
* Microsoft's headless chicken naming strategy in full force, it's a miracle they haven't yet renamed and rebranded it to align with copilot yet.
Personally, once a game I own is janked from my hands because of organizational decisions, that's the time I'll stop consider the game "in good shape", but I'm sure the people who had to buy the same game a second time still enjoy it.
Now the best way to use GHA is to do the bare minimum. Put all your CI logic in a script that you can test locally, and just have GHA run your script. Even that is painful. And, somehow, impossible to make secure without having spent 5,000 hours reading all the previous ways people got pwn'd by Github Action's horrendous security model.
My main problem with Gitlab is that after years I still can't find what I'm looking for in the UI. It's always exactly in the third place I look. Otherwise Gitlab has been good. Even self-hosted works pretty well.
* GiLab — Ops centric
* GitHub — Developer centric
if you just want somewhere to stick a code repo and build a release every so often — dont use gitlab, you will not enjoy it.
> My main problem with Gitlab is that after years I still can't find what I'm looking for in the UI.
i still get lost too after several years daily driving gitlab. this is the Ops centric thing. they provide a lot of options. lots of options is good for Ops.
> Now the best way to use GHA is to do the bare minimum
yeah, i’m an ops guy, so the maintaining custom actions stuff on github is horrible for me vs click a button and move on with my day — once i find the button that is! xD
That said, are the majority of people actually even _using_ those features? For us we're essentially just using GitLab for git, merge requests, and CI pipelines. A couple places we use the static page hosting. (First thing I do whenever I create a new repository is go into the settings and just uncheck _all_ the boxes.)
All of that core functionality works really well and is more than polished enough from my point of view.
But a couple of years ago they were crowing about how much work they were doing to prepare for “a billion developers”. If they had actually done that then the actual load from agents should have been no problem.
The more surpassing part is that Microsoft hasn't figured out a way to manage/contain the AI-sourced traffic better so it doesn't create all this noisy neighbor problems for non-AI usage/users.
I'm not sure how reliable the data is, but average uptime seems to have dipped measurably starting within a year of the aquisition, according to https://damrnelson.github.io/github-historical-uptime/
Now it's a unit in their AI hype machine.
It's quite disappointing objectively, but I expected worse from MSFT.
Well, we're at least two people who care, since we were conversing about how good/bad the webdesign is, then you jumped in here :) If you don't care, why bother to reply to people who seemingly do care? What kind of conversation are you expecting here, "Yeah, do tooo"? :|
Is it though? If the page is near unreadable?
* Almost pure-black background rendering every not-pure-white colour barely readable
* Dark-grey and low saturation colours used almost everywhere, for both fonts and other coloured elements (the orange cells in the calendar are the most readable thing)
* Thin fonts - coupled with the dark grey colours this just adds to the readability issues
* Yet another incredibly long info-dump of a page
And then as far as actual information:
* Vanity metrics as the main information, that is a lot of things with no context or historical information
* A lot of aggregates and rollups that aren't that useful
No, I haven't tried Reader Mode.
It's a good demo for UI state syncing though, I'll give it that.
3D type stuff too, it's useless outside boilerplate.
Very little spatial reasoning training, no end-user subjective reasoning inference (Google is starting to though even in unrelated chats), so it's no surprise the LLM doesn't know what you want.
Since I don't even know what I want half the time until I saw it, the subjective reasoning piece is key - that is, being able to predict what I'll want to pretty good accuracy. Then you have your agents etc.