With that incentive it seems reasonable to assume that future anthropic models will not be good at ML research, at least because they aren't incentivised to make it so, and therefore using other models perhaps open source will be the way to go.
This does make the large assumption that they can afford to train a parallel model for themselves to assist in their own research. But given their huge valuation, and incentives, that extra cost is feasibly worth it for them.
https://xcancel.com/hammer_mt/status/2064839924398825798
This is so completely dishonest. But it also shows how deeply anti competitive Anthropic is. They will talk about safety but it’s not actually about safety: building features like this seems intended to hurt competition in the AI space. They don’t mind if AI helps YOUR competitor but if it means competition for them, they suddenly have a problem with it.
I don’t care that they walked this back. They’ve shown who they are. And what they’re capable of.
We now all know that Anthropic CAN do that if they want to. The fact that they told you upfront about it shows that their arrogance on this self-sabotage against their customers is at stratospheric levels.
Believe them the first time, and they are not your friends at all.
- Anthropic is ran by a bunch of nut jobs.
- OpenAI is ran by a guy you can't trust.
I don't even know if we should include DeepMind, Meta, or xAi in the conversation of AI labs at this point since they can't produce models better than Chinese labs.
You want fucking nut jobs like this building models?
It's one thing to build safeguards on your model and have it prompt the user back. I'm sorry I can't help you with this request. Chinese models do this for some requests.
It's another thing to actively try to make the model perform worst for your user on purpose because it asked the model to do something you, the model creator, didn't like.
Imagine someone is asking a logical medical question and the model swaps the prompt and purpose being less intelligent and gives bad advice to this person.
How do these people not understand they are stupid.
Even if you trust Anthropic today (which I don't), they clearly don't want competition and there's no telling what other shady moves they'll pull in future.
The only sustainable way forward is to support open models. I was already on the fence about whether or not to keep my Max subscription (the extra cost over something like DeepSeek V4 didn't really feel justifiable). This is the tipping point for me, I'll be cancelling my sub before it renews at the end of the month.
It is definitely a bad idea to do this without notifying the user, because users who are incorrectly affected will have no way of providing feedback or getting support. And it is also anticompetitive, but if you truly believe that AI is not a normal technology, it is rational.
It's actually worse than it sounds initially, because Fable isn't actually omniscient when it comes to safety classification. Many people (myself included) had refusals or fallback to Opus 4.8 for seemingly compliant/innocuous requests.
Wouldn't you be pissed off if they decided to sabotage your project despite having done nothing wrong?
We all know the false positive rates for classifiers on Fable. Imagine being a ML researcher working on any kind of ML/AI project that isn't against their ToS, and having your codebase poisoned and sabotaged silently.
I don't think I agree that I should be forbidden from e.g. patching a binary to work on the latest macOS since the company behind it died and intentionally installed a time-based kill-switch (FUCK ADOBE for popularizing that practice). But ooOOooOOoo working with machine code is so cybersecurity and therefore suspicious.
Do they really believe that? Or do they just want to control this technology exclusively with moves like this and with pushing for regulatory capture after complaining about safety all the time? Didn’t Dario say that GPT2 or GPT3 would present a similar destroy the world level of danger?
A cynic? Yeah, you wish. You need a PhD in cynicism if you want to catch up to reality.
> The only sustainable way forward is to support open models.
You're on the right track though, we're now a crowd of two.
This is, in my mind, effectively malware. We don’t know exactly what code the model will inject, and we certainly don’t know when it will happen. It could very easily introduce vulnerabilities.
It takes *nut jobs" to advance tech like this at the speed it is. They have strong beliefs and they work hard to realize those beliefs.
Neither has any hope of doing any good for the world as they don't understand evolutionary pressures. They are set up to reward making members feel smart, not accomplishing anything.
And if they ever gain any real power, they will be corrupted immediately.
if I pollute your groundwater today, but promise you in the future to give you double the clean water, because ill make billions on some industrial process, youd understand.
the simple physics is about entropy: ignoring local effects and claiming youll do global good is effective altruism.
unless you misunderstand: the hard part of altruism is knowing whether you are actually doing good or just making yourself feel good by deluding the subject.
many social science fails to move social improvements from lab to real world implementation because of structural variables that cant be overcome.
so effective altruism is the belief you can reverse entropy by ignoring local effects...in practice
I don't think Anthropic is the one aggressively expanding their datacenters to areas where literally everybody does not want them, but that's "effective altruism", right? Just justifying bads with a supposedly larger good?
Essentially, all these corporations just use LLCs and random corporations to do the things they dont want on their public books, and the actual benefactors arn't required to be listed or registered anywhere. America is one of the largest owners of these poorly defined companies. Combine that with how much dark money can be used in American politics, there's zero chance anyone can figure out whose pushing what agenda.
But we know they all came from the same tech scene, so they could all be in any one of those cults.
Like common. It did not made sense when Altman was doing it and it does not makes sense with Anthropic.
