I am somewhat skeptical of this.

First, the headline result of 0.7*sigma improvement is the output of a statistical based on lessons/reviews they engaged with and their mid-term score, with that shift being for "full engagement". Based on their tables something like ~16 students (11% of the group) actually reached that level of engagement

Second, trying to incorporate past grades into their modelling is not a substitute for a randomized trial.

Third, the headline engagement number of 90% is for "engaging with the platform, via Module Review or Lesson Quizzes, at least once". I don't know why much of that couldn't just be attributed to novelty. Or even partly a professor with all sorts of enthusiasm for the platform.

Fourth, the "full dosage" effectiveness is measured based the final exam scores. Were these exam questions produced independently from the "Phosphor" materials? (e.g. by blinding?) Were they checked for direct overlap with those materials? The 0.7 sigma shift is 3 points on a 24 point exam; if even a few of the questions on that exam were very similar to those materials it could account for almost all of it. This is not clear to me from the manuscript.

If this was the case, then it's a question less of "is AI effective" vs. "did the students look at the materials". You could still argue that the AI platform got them to read, but that is a somewhat different statement than the AI helped them learn.

I'm not an expert, but how much of this is down to novelty, ie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawthorne_effect ?

(ie changing the environment can lead to short term productivity gains because either participants are aware they are being watch, or it breaks up the monotony and makes people work a bit harder. )

I'm on record saying that a system like this with some extra hardware (i.e. a way for the LLM to have live understanding of the student's paper notebook or handout which are being written in with a plain old pencil) combines the best of both worlds - individual tutoring with approximately zero screen time which scales linearly with the number of students. The role of the teacher or professor then becomes a manager of the student - agentic tutor pairs, a referee when the student and model disagree, etc. and most importantly still being the human teacher you can just talk to in the human education process.

I'm convinced this is the future of education - models are there, we need the classroom tech to catch up. The alternative is obvious and quantified in the paper - students just use models to do their work for them and learn nothing.

The title is misleading. This isn't an AI tutor so much as a practice quiz platform with an AI autograder.

> constructed-response questions (CRQ) are graded by Claude Sonnet 4.6 against instructor-defined, question-specific rubric criteria

> Crucially, LLMs make it feasible to grade formative CRQ against rubric criteria at scale, a capability that appears pedagogically significant rather than merely convenient.

They specifically call out that the "RAG chat assistant" part of Phosphor (the platform) wasn't used much.

I commend the effort here, but I don't think these results are particularly noteworthy. The conclusion is essentially that people who do practice quizzes will do better on exams.

Yes! Very exciting to see this.

Bloom's Two Sigma Opportunity suggests that there's another SD improvement available: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloom%27s_2_sigma_problem

The article explicitly calls out selection bias (this is entirely based on 90% that opted into using the tutor, there was no control group), I wish the headline did as well. "Engaged students score 0.71 - 1.30 SD better in tests" sounds like a much simpler explanation.

This is exciting because the effect size is so large. But as the author's acknowledged, selection bias is nearly impossible to control for in this non-randomized study:

> and lacks randomized controls. Self-selection is the central threat: students who complete more quizzes may be more motivated or higher-performing generally

But this is still a strong result. I'm excited to see more in this space.

While there's some skepticism in the thread, I'm not particularly surprised if this is true. Children who can get human tutoring do a lot better. An LLM that can answer questions and patiently explain likely offers some benefit.

What creeps me out about bringing LLM into early education is that it's a period where kids learn to socialize and cope with problems, and I do worry about forming substitute relationships with chatbots that are engineered for sycophancy / enablement. But I guess that's a problem either way, because almost every student will try an LLM at some point.

Interesting article, wonder where we're going with this though, I find it's very difficult to keep LLMs on track and critical enough to be useful.

Just want to say that:

>In our deployment, student-reported reading completion baselines for MATH 010 were approximately 15%, with instructors estimating 10%. Individual student reports of reading compliance ranged from "literally no one does that" to "is this being recorded?"

is hilarious

Conflicted about this study. On one hand, LLMs have been incredible for my personal learnings of new concepts.

On the other, I'm sceptical of that it'll have "strong benefits" at scale; I'd be more in favor if the wording was "some"/"moderate". I reckon self-selection plays a huge part, as mentioned in the "Limitations" section of the paper.

I'd also caution against attaching the tool to grading. That means students have to put more effort into the course, which increases the chances that they will use LLMs to save time rather than make the investment.

This is super, but students will have access to AI during the test in real life, so it's ironically less realistic to remove it (thinking of the "... GPT-4 actually harmed subsequent performance by 17% when the tool was removed ..." part).

I'm more curious how students perform on the test with vs. without AI.

In mice!

Jk, but the skepticism is inevitable. I think we can be dubious about how AI mobilizes global capital while also appreciating tutoring as one of its best targeted use cases.

Honestly whether or not this was effective seems less important to me than the adoption numbers.

Text book reading in this course was 10-15% at baseline ... but this AI thing got 90% voluntary usage ungraded.

Even if its worse per-hour than a textbook, you're now teaching 6x as many students _something_ instead of teaching a small minority everything.

So really it just becomes an optimization problem at that point because most students are at least in the funnel/in the running to learn something.

The paper kind of proves this itself ... they tweaked the quize formats mid-semester and where able to iterate which you can't do on a textbook that nobody opens in the first place

Do you have a larger study planned for the Fall? It definitely seems promising.

I'm curious how well you feel this worked because the subject was Statistics (objective grading) versus something more subjective like Civics or Literature.

PS - I'd say this qualifies for Show HN, too!

Do you

Interesting, congrats.

Are you planning on opening access to Phosphor?

Shocking that a well executed AI tutor improves outcomes.

Hasn't computer assisted interactive learning already been proven for years? Why does there seem to be so much skepticism about enhancing it with AI?

Is this just something like, astoundingly slow adoption or poor execution? Being held back by paper textbook makers? Teachers unions dragging their feet?

How can interactive AI driven individually paced learning _not_ be obviously dramatically more effective?

Too bad the educational use case doesn't make any money. Good LLMs are a game changer for people motivated to learn.

Very nicely typeset.

I work in consulting and one of my projects is piloting an AI use case for a department within one of my clients. On a discovery call someone casually brought up that they bought a reMarkable notebook themselves and were wondering if it could be integrated into the use case. It really got me thinking.

Maybe reMarkable or something like it could help bridge a student's writing with an LLM without having to fall back to a laptop or ipad.

https://remarkable.com/

Today I saw a demo of Remarkable turned into Voldemort's diary from Harry Potter - you write to it, and it writes back, in handwriting.

A 'smart pen' that records the student's writing in some way, maybe? My first thought was a tablet that boots straight into a writing software but students should not be subjected to any amount of latency in their writing.

Practically, I think if you want the AI system to have a live view of what the student's doing you're going to have to replace one of either the tablet or the writing instrument. A wearable camera could work as well but there are issues with that.

I would add that somewhere in there should be a spaced repetition algorithm.

Spaced repetition is very effective, but it's really really clunky to use. My unpopular opinion is that we all have Stockholm syndrome when it comes to creating "cards", and people talk about how valuable creating cards is; but I think it stucks, it takes a lot of time.

If AI is already teaching me math (let's say), it would be nice to tell the AI/app "quiz me on this periodically", and then the AI makes up a fresh polynomial to factor (or whatever) and presents that to you according to a spaced repetition algorithm.

Behind the scenes, the AI should have access to what has happened the last several times a specific topic has been quized, so the AI can watch to see that certain mistakes are resolved, and the AI might also know better how to correct the user if it has context about previous quizzes of that topic.