Google Chrome Installed a 4GB AI Model on Your PC(oztalking.com) |
Google Chrome Installed a 4GB AI Model on Your PC(oztalking.com) |
*Except in your job, since you probably obligated to use.
Also, if everyone chooses to not use firefox because it has low market share, it'll remain low market share forever.
I use firefox on mac and I have simply no clue what you're talking about. Tons of people use firefox on mac quite successfully...
The only page that I know of that doesn't work is google earth - it doesn't work on linux either. (Technically it does, just incredibly laggy compared to chrome)
I can't think of a single macos specific bug. Or a single mouse over related bug.
What sites do you have in mind?
Using Google's websites much, are we? FF works great everywhere except there. I think the official term for the bugs on these pages is "oops"...
I use FF everywhere except on G pages, where I use Brave.
await LanguageModel.create()
Since the model is installed once per browser, LanguageModel.availability() could probably also be used for fingerprinting. await fetch("/multi-gigabyte-download");
It even works on non-Chrome browsers.This feature was massively bungled; I actually don't overall hate the idea of it (having a shared, pre-downloaded model that can run effectively from JS is kind of awesome versus sites downloading stuff into LocalStorage to use with hacked up wasm/webgl inference engines), but it really, really needed a permissions dialog and a proper anti-fingerprinting model.
Why?
Little demo of using this local model to inject AI into a page with a monkeyscript: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPi33D8DoQ0&t=3000s
what part of the 4Gb file offended people?
the fact that ai runs on the edge reliably now?
It's free, multi-language, well tested, respecting privacy (no cloud needed), nothing extra to install. Quite nice actually.
Like what iPhones do, and everybody is ok with it. Chrome is not just a browser, it's a Window (ahem) to the web, almost an operating system considering the wide scope.
Average game is 80 GB, Call of Duty 200 GB+, etc
It's a quite oriented title:
Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent
The same news can be read as:
Amazing, Chrome now includes a fully offline AI so you don't have to send your secrets to ChatGPT
A proper journalist would have found the middle ground, explained that this is by default, can be made optional and to raise the issue to Google as "Cons: this uses bandwidth and user is not aware of it".
The “Local AI” toggle is enabled. Chrome never asked for my consent to enable it.
Screenshot: https://imgur.com/a/S4WTHxM
The 4GB file is located in C:\Users\[user]\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\User Data\OptGuideOnDeviceModel\2025.8.8.1141
Screenshot: https://imgur.com/a/wvTqfQM
https://tech.yahoo.com/ai/gemini/articles/fact-check-google-...
People have asked me what use cases this has, and I've been making little apps with on-device AI such as a calorie estimator and tracker for food, or a page summarizer or translated (the latter of which Firefox actually already has using a local model). Why pay for a cloud model when the user has a perfectly good model themselves?
Discussions: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48019219
* other than how everyone is already paying rent in the form of increased energy costs due to increased demand from this massive ramp of data center development everywhere, regardless of if they want to use AI or not
Practical built-in AI with Gemini Nano in Chrome
There's been a lot of new tech introduced through Chrome and eventually widely adopted and available everywhere. Without requiring user consent.
QUIC + HTTP/3, WebP, Service Workers / PWAs, WASM, WebRTC, View Transitions API
This feels like just another step of "make this new capability widely available so developers can adopt it if they want."
This one seems to be all on-device local capabilities. Not calling additional APIs or sending data off-device.
Is the argument just around "Don't use 4gb of drive space without asking me first"? What other issues does this introduce?
*although this 4gb is probably very likely to go up even more, maybe 8, 16gb models - if the disk space is there, and the computer has the power to use bigger models, I don't see why Google wouldn't ship better more capable on-device models when possible (other than profit motive to push more non-local-ai requiring a Google One AI subscription).
*this idea works absent of the recent AI datacenter-based demand for NAND and DRAM. If anything consumers are avoiding buying NAND or DRAM right now due to the prices.
Aside from taking up a lot of space as a web browser, I'm not sure I get it. Their explanation that Apple's version of this is fine but Google's isn't is wild too.
A solution:
New AI features are available for use offline, they will make you able to translate offline, get answers, summaries, etc, would you like to download / install them (~4 GB)?
It is going to fix the experience in the UI. It's a significant misstep by Google in its form (probably lazy/hasted/bureaucratic release), but on the move itself, this is actually a very user-friendly initiative from Google.
It's quite unfair in that specific case to say that Google = evil, and when Qwen = good. It's just about informing the user better so the bandwidth and space is not wasted. Giving user choice.
They will fix it eventually, especially after raising the issue.
But shouting here "Google = bad, me uninstall Google, if you use Google Chrome you are an idiot" are not a productive feedback for a product owner there.
I wasn't? I hope that wasn't directed at me since we seem to kind of agree otherwise.
Unfortunately the vast majority of Chrome users wont understand that prompt. Google decided that the Chrome installer should be 4GB, that seems like a large web browser, but is it that crazy compared to anything else? Teams on my Mac is taking 1GB+ just in Applications (not to say I'm terribly happy about that). Chrome installs its own updates and has for a very long time, ensuring we dont have to support super old browser versions, I'm not sure where the line is.
light browsing is not a thing unless you somehow ensure javascript is disabled and all downloads are blocked
To your point about `fetch` in the sibling comment; yes, I would also be annoyed by a website which downloaded 4GB in the background without asking me, too.
I don't think this is some moral outrage, to be clear; it's well within Google's rights, it doesn't seem "sketchy" at all, and it is kind of a cool feature, but it feels like they could have done a lot better by just making it opt-in and a little less fingerprintable.
If an app or site uses too much bandwidth, it would be better to control this at the OS level, perhaps with a required user notification and consent. Or throttle certain apps.
It's common to set an alert for total data usage, which makes sense so you don't get surprised when you run out of data. That could be extended to watch the usage rate and alert by some threshold, or a projection on the total, like "hey at the current rate, you are going to hit your limit in N minutes".
That's gross even by Microsoft standards.