Ask HN: Are systems ready for the first negative leap second?

5 points by Asmod4n 4 hours ago | 5 comments

It’s been 10 years since we had the last leap second and it looks like we will get the first negative one soonish. Are systems ready for that?

wmf 3 hours ago |

Systems are absolutely not ready. Leap seconds are a bad idea and negative leap seconds are worse. Just don't do it and let the drift cancel out.

Bender 3 hours ago |

Google's proposal is a smear. [1] Most time servers do not use smear. No idea what behavior it may introduce in places where sub-second time is important. Curious if all these bugs [2] were fixed specifically to deal with going backwards.

[1] - https://developers.google.com/time/smear

[2] - https://rivassec.com/leap-second-chaos-2012.html

d00d0ff000 3 hours ago |

NTP.

By any other standard, most manually set clocks are up to a full minute off all the time.

subscribed 1 hour ago | |

Yeah, but we're thinking of systems where nanoseconds matter.

MiFID 2 alone forces sub-μs precision. Million times less than the leap 1 second.

NTP minute away is good for displaying date on the workstation, not for many of the devices that are critical to the modern world.

cyanydeez 1 hour ago | | |

dont most systems that rely on sharp timing simply manage it themselves.